he . 4teen🍖🌈, 🐰🎀i'm not the biggest fan of dark ships, but i won't harass those who are.
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proship culture is antis explaining what proshipping is… to you… the proshipper in question
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sorry that you think my fictional ship is illegal. I actually consulted a fictional lawyer about it and he had a talk with a fictional cop about the fictional laws and then they both looked at me, and very seriously said "we'll allow it because it's hot."
“i love toxic yaoi!!!” and then their idea of toxic is arguing about what to have for dinner
If I had a nickel for every time someone’s profile mentioned how much they like cannibalism, serial killers, abusive relationships, etc and then immediately ‘proship DNI’ under it…
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first, let me inform all of you so we're all on the same page.
Proshipper: one who believes other shouldnt be harassed for their ships. (proships dont exist.)
Profiction: one who believes other shouldnt be harassed over what fiction they consume.
Comshipper: one who ships complex ships.
Comship: non-pedophilic age gaps, interspecies, complex relationships that arent inherently abusive.
Darkshipper: one who ships dark ships.
Darkship: abusive relationships, pedophilic age-gaps, insect.
lolicon: one who is attracted to a young fictional girl.
shotacon: one who is attracted to a young fictional boy
we all on the same page? ok. also sybau if your not studying psychology and your trying to make it seem like being a proshipper is harmful to ones mind.
"shipping insect, pedophilic relationships, and such is **harmful** to people who were in that relationship, so therefore disrespectful and immoral!"
actually, it can be used as a coping mechanism for victims, why? because it can help them **cope** with what happened to them, by projecting on their favorite characters, it can help them think that whatever happened to them, their favorite fictional character has endured it too. essentially comforting them.
"if fiction doesnt affect reality, then why after jaws, everyone became scared of sharks?"
people were afraid of sharks even before the jaws movie..? sharks eat people.
also, if fiction does affect reality, would consuming gay media as a straight person make you gay? nope! does playing limbus company make you a train that eats people? does playing genshin make you mavuika?
now let me again use antis logicc.
yk how rape and sex trafficking victims often relate to characters like aventurine? by your logic, they cant anymore because it "harms them".
do you also know how groom victims relate to topaz because she was groomed by jade? they cant anymore because it "harms them".
another example, you now cant relate to ei (who is implied to have NPD) because you'll turn to a god that "abuses" her citizens?
what about sunday? he also was groomed by that big back eagle, now you cant relate to him because it "harms them" like ok
switching to other games, liking eula makes you a racist, liking klee makes you a terrorist, liking varesa makes you a food champion.
see the flawed logic?
'he would not fucking say that' maybe he would if he knew he was starring in his very own porn fic for the sole purpose of delighting some freaks on archive of our own dot org. maybe he'd play it up for the cameras. ever consider that
thinking about f/os experiencing cuteness aggression... f/os who will wake you up from a nap with cuddles and kisses because you were just too cute to not bother, f/os squealing as they hold you tightly like a teddy bear, f/os doing slightly annoying things throughout the day like ruffling your hair or poking your cheek because they just can't help themselves when it comes to you <3
subscribing to a fic isn’t enough I need the author to blast a bat signal into the night sky whenever they update
Being a pro censorship ao3 user is so insanely cringe. Either use the (incredibly effective and well designed) filtering system to avoid seeing the shit you don't like or stop complaining. Leave the pro censorship rhetoric to Wattpad or smth
Sometimes I think that Antis kind of hate CSEM because they think it's gross. When...it's bad because it further victimizes a child, a real child. Consuming CSEM is inherently exploitative and further perpetuates the abuse against the child. Same goes for bestiality. They just "think it's gross".
No it's bad because someone or an animal gets HARMED in the production or in the consumption of it.
And that's why I don't believe antis when they say "Antis care about kids, proshippers don't!" You guys flood the CSEM tip line with material the FBI already says to stop reporting. You are WASTING time and effort to investigate these "tips" and feeling good about yourselves. You also claim that, in some callouts you post, that some proshippers draw what you deem CSEM (often incorrectly labeled CP). Did you know that if it WAS CSEM, you would go to prison? Reposting CSEM in any form, even for awareness is a CRIME. Even having on your phone is a crime.
If you cared about children, you'd encourage the creation of spaces for them, you'd actually take time not to expose them to inappropriate material, as well as not send violent harassment mobs after minor proshippers.
When I was a minor online, I witnessed so many minors being harassed into self-harm and suicide because people who kept screaming "WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS" leaked their addresses to pedophiles and spammed them with death threats and rape threats. Kids as young as 13 were and still are receiving vile threats that make even me as a 22 year old feel sick.
If you care about kids, then look at yourself. Look at your actions. See if you really care or if you're only doing it to make yourself feel good.
YouTuber: Hey, I swear and cuss and yell. But my videos is not geered towards children. It's not my job to monitor your children and make sure they only consume content age appropriate to them.
Anti: Yeah. People shouldn't be expecting random YouTubers to make content for kids.
Horror Writer: Hey, I make graphic and scary media. But my books/movies are not meant for children. And it's not my job to make it appropraite for children/
Anti: Yeah. They made it clear what the movie was in the trailer/poster. If a child watches that and gets scared it's their own fault. The writer made it for adults not kids.
Adult Show Creators: Hey, my show has sexual jokes and violent imagry. But it's not my fault if a child sees my work. My shows are for adults, not children.
Anti: Yeah. Not everything is meant for kids. It's up to parents to make sure their children don't see inapropriate material.
Libriarian: Hey, we have a variety of books including books parents don't agree with. But I'm not payed to monitor what children are reading. The most I can do is ask a child if they know what they're reading and if it's in their age bracket. But I can't memorize the morals of every parent of every child who comes here to make sure they're reading approved books. And it's absurd to expect me to.
Anti: Yeah. Book banning and censorship is alt-right tactics and disgusting. It's not libriarians' jobs to make sure your child is reading books you approve of. If you don't want your child seeing somehting you don't approve of, you monitor them.
Proshipper: Hey, I make content with taboo themes and imagry. But I make it clear children shouldn't be seeing my content and it's not meant for them. My content is meant for adults and it's not my job to parent random people's children.
Anti: That's groomer logic! Keep that shit to yourself! What if a child sees it!? You deserve to rot in jail! KYS! Pedo! Children don't listen to DNIs! We should be protecting children from this degeneracy!
i feel like antis are using the same tactics as homophobes to get more people to dislike proshippers
i've been seeing a lot of them saying that proshippers are groomers and that any attempt we make to be kind to them is just some sort of grooming tactic
and to me it just sounds exactly like hearing homophobes and transphobes saying that all trans people are going to groom your kids into being trans or all gay people are going to groom your children into being gay
its scary, and so stupid.
i understand that a lot of antis have this fear because they were groomed by a proshipper or they know someone who was, but it really frustrates me because there are going to be groomers everywhere on the internet, its like their hunting grounds.
yes some trans people are groomers, that does not make all trans people groomers.
yes some gay people are groomers, that does not make all gay people groomers.
and, yes some proshippers are groomers
that does not make all proshippers groomers.
If people would understand that fictional characters are not real and can’t consent and are simply objects for us to play with, things would be so much better for everyone.
So mentioning the age of consent when we’re talking about fictional ships is just dumb.
This user supports AO3
This user is anti-censorship
This user believes in “don’t like, don’t read”
This user believes in “ship and let ship”
This user believes that fiction tastes and preferences do not dictate moral character
Proship culture is asking yourself how are there antis in the fandom of the "do whatever the fuck you want forever" show/game
Yes this is about sonic and the owl house specifically, but it is not exclusive
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the unblured person is me btw.
These "normal people" commented this on someone who made a gore art of Ochako a while back.
They recently made a post explaining why they had been gone. A family member was ill and they were helping taking care of them.
Of course here comes these people saying shit that proves antis will never be in the right.
Antis are sick individuals who will use the horrible situation of real people to try to sound in the right.
Just saw a tiktok of someone seething and mad that people spread "misinformation" that proshipping is just "don't like don't read".
Went on to say proshippers are all pedophiles and groomers, that justify CSEM.
How are you going to go on a full rant about misinformation and doing research to confirm somethings meaning only to then spread misinformation yourself.
If you wanna protect AO3 or character ai. Or Wattpad. Or Tumblr. Or discord. Or even the right for undocumented people and minors to use the fucking Internet reblog this I swear to God. Reblog this and reblog as many KOSA posts as you can go on their website and contact your Representatives. Do it. Do it. Do it.
“You're a bad person if you're into cnc! You're a bad person if you like ageplay! You're a bad person if you like petplay! You're a bad person if you're into fictional taboos!”
And I guess everyone who's into bdsm is either a sick abuser or a dumb idiot who's enabling abuse?
Or is that kink okay because you don't find it gross or weird?
almost forgor,
just a reminder to proshippers that you shoudnt click on links to avoid being doxxed!! copy paste those links and put them into an ip grabber website to check if its safe!!
Like, I'm a sucker for certain incest ships, but that doesn't mean I want to fuck my mom or anyone else in my family.
I'm also a huge slut for age-gap relationships and abusive dynamics, but that doesn't mean I'm interested in going after someone significantly older or younger than me, and it doesn't mean that I want to be abused myself.
Being proship means that we enjoy things that are problematic in FICTION because of the entertainment/comfort/whatever other value they provide for us and that it is not always a reflection of what we believe or desire.
heyyyyyy girlies just a reminder that ao3 is by proshitters, for proshitters and your puritanical anti rhetoric isn’t welcome there byeeeeeee ship and let ship forever 🫶
(This is from the official AO3 TOS update btw)
it’s okay to be uncomfortable with dark themes, it’s okay to not like dark themes, it’s okay to not want to be around someone who does like dark themes, but harassing someone over it is bonkers
how do you harass someone over fiction, imply that liking dark themes in fiction = you’ll recreate them in real life, TELL PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES OVER FICTION, and much much more, but still think that you’re the normal ones??
how do you harass someone over fiction, imply that liking dark themes in fiction = you’ll recreate them in real life, TELL PEOPLE TO KILL THEMSELVES OVER FICTION, and much much more, but still think that you’re the normal ones??
Antis: Ew if you gotta use it to cope, do it in private and don't force people to see it!!!
Creator: Ok, I'll do it in private and won't force people to see it
Antis: Leak said content and forces people to see it OMG HOW COULD YOU HIDE THIS FROM US YOU MONSTER!!! YOU'RE DISGUSTING YOU KNOW THAT??? I CARE ABOUT VICTIMS WHICH IS WHY I'M GONNA HARASS YOU (aka a victim) AND MOCK YOU HAVING EMOTIONS ABOUT IT!!! BUT ALSO IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE EMOTIONS ABOUT IT ID CALL YOU A HEARTLESS MONSTER!!!!
(DO NOT INTERACT: Radqueers/TransIDs and people whos DNIs I belong in)
why do so many antis compare loli/shota to csem?
Like seriously? How do you exploit a drawing?
Those two aren't near the same level.
One is extremly illegal and harms real children. The other is "icky drawings".
"Oh but loli/ shota cons may actually start liking real children" can any anti send actual defining proof this this is true.
Now I am not saying it's not impossible for that to happen. But had it actually ever lead to it?
I'm sorry I keep posting my tiktok comments but please. What does this mean. What do people THINK shipping is for anymore???
hey, did you know that the world is a better place because of your creations and art and writing, no matter how niche or how many people see it