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What is a Pantheonic deity?
Pantothenic deities are deities that are from a specific religion; the word pantheon means a group of important individuals. For instance, the Greek gods, titans, primordial beings, etc are all part of the Greek Pantheon.
What is a Pop-Culture deity?
Pop-Culture deities are any characters that come from media, such as tv shows, movies, games, books etc. A lot of anime characters are very popular pop-culture deities. Some people also refer to them as pop-culture entities, or PCDs/PCEs for short.
Are Pop-Culture deities real deities?
The answer to this gets a little complex and there’s a lot of debate surrounding this question. This answer is also just my own opinion based on my experiences and perception! Pop-Culture deities are, at the very core of their being, entities that have been created by humanity. Anime characters, book characters, video game characters are all examples of Pop-Culture deities. Unlike pantheonic deities, people's own beliefs in them or honoring them in various ways (yes, even people who do not believe in witchcraft) has brought them to life; fed them energy that has made them into real, sentient beings. These can be considered egregores or thoughtforms. Unlike pantheonic deities, egregores need a supply of energy they can feed on in order to continue existing. Oftentimes, they are able to gain energy from people simply enjoying the sources they are from. However, from my experience, there are times where these entities will become strong enough or popular enough that they transform into actual deities; they are no longer a simple egregore but a completely independent being that doesn’t need a supply of energy in order to exist, they can exist all on their own. I have found that a lot of Pop-Culture deities that I have encountered, even if their source is not that old, have incredibly ancient energies just like pantheonic deities, and they do not need outside energies in order to survive. Basically, they have surpassed being simple thoughtforms and egregores and have transcended into actual deities. I have asked my deities about this before, and they have told me that once the egregore gains enough energy they can essentially transform into an independent being; my team has told me that deities can also help make this happen.
What are thoughtforms/egregores?
As stated above, they are creations of human design; they are created from energies for specific purposes. A lot of egregores are made to be servitors or guardians for the person and their space. Not all egregores are sentient or conscious either, some people chose to make them without consciousness or sentience.
How do pantheonic deities get along with Pop-Culture deities?
From my experience and from what I’ve heard from others who work with both, they get along pretty well. There are some PCD’s that may have a reputation of being more chaotic, and this may make other deities in a practitioner's life more cautious, but this can happen for pantheonic deities as well.
Do I need to specify that I work with the PCD version of a pantheonic deity?
In general, that’s up to you and your preferences. I know some communities and people can be quite judgmental about working with PCD’s. For more specific interactions, like if you are getting a tarot reading from someone, it is best to specify that you are wanting a reading from a PCD so that they are calling on the correct being.
Does the astral get crowded with how many deities exist?
The astral is a very vast place, and in my belief, it probably does not get crowded in general. However, when it comes to someone's personal space (the space where their team would exist around them in the astral) it might get crowded in the sense that there could be a lot of different energies mixing at one time. This is why when more generalized readings are done for you, your entire spirit team may be present to offer insight and advice.
Do PCD’s with ‘dead’ fandoms die? Can they come back to life if the fandom comes back?
This ties into my personal beliefs about PCD’s and their separation from being an egregore vs an independent entity. All in all, it depends. If the PCD is able to break away and become more than just an egregore, then yes they would exist even if their fandom dies. To answer the second part of the question, if an entity who was an egregore’s fandom came back, then I do believe that entity would be re-created. From what I’ve been told, if the entity is being entirely re-created, they will essentially be a new egregore, rather than the one that existed before.
How do I know if a PCD for a certain media exists yet?
Basically, if a media exists, that PCD would exist as well, if you want them to. Again this ties into the concept that egregores can become more when given the chance. If you create an Original Character (OC) and make them into an egregore, then they do exist. If you continue to feed them energies, and allow them to experience the world around you independently of you, then they can change and transform and become something more than just an egregore. Belief is a huge factor in this as well, if you believe that they should exist, then they will!
Do the source events equal what actually happened to them?
This answer can be very complicated, but from my experience it's similar to how pantheonic deities are. Their source material can affect and influence them, and it is, and isn't, things that actually happened to them. This also goes into personal beliefs again, as some people do believe that what happened in the source has actually happened to the deity, while others see it more as just a story/myth.
Do they follow the same rules as pantheonic deities in terms of reaching out, spousal, etc?
Yes, for the most part they will follow the same rules. You can reach out to a PCD, or they might reach out to you. The same goes for spousal, sometimes they may ask, but the mortal party can also ask if there is interest there.
Are they weaker than pantheonic deities?
Egregores themselves are generally weaker than pantheonic deities, however again this ties into the belief that some PCD’s are more than just egregores. PCDs who are more than egregores do tend to be just as powerful as pantheonic deities. In the end though, if working with a PCD is what you’re drawn to do, regardless of if they are still an egregore or not, if they are benefitting you and your practice, then go for it. Power is a lot more complicated than ‘this deity is weaker than that deity’ when it comes to magic.
Do they have the same likes/dislikes as in their source?
The answer to this is generally yes; again similar to pantheonic deities and specific offerings/preferences listed in their myths that they may like/dislike, a PCD will probably have similar preferences in real life as well. However, this is also about personal experience too, and this goes for both pantheonic and pop-culture deities. If the practitioner dislikes something, the deity may either not ask for that offering, or tell them they don’t want that offering from them (to avoid making the practitioner buy something they’re not going to also enjoy). On the opposite end of that, the deity may encourage the practitioner to buy that item to encourage them to branch out (for instance, Poseidon has been slowly but surely making me like coconut, something that up until I started working with him, I hated). This can depend a lot on the practitioner's own boundaries with their deities as well.
What if I don’t believe in PCDs?
It's perfectly ok if you don’t believe or want to work with PCDs; however everyone's practice is valid, and me personally, I do try to respect everyone's practices even if I don’t hold the same beliefs as they do.
Do the creators of PCD’s and their viewpoints influence the PCD?
The answer to this question is yes, and no. Especially for PCD’s whose source isn’t finished (like an ongoing book series) this can change and influence the PCD a bit as a real being as the book character evolves in real time. However, the creators' more personal viewpoints (like their religious background for instance) will not hold that much influence on the actual being.
What if someone I know works with a PCD that I dislike?
Just like any other deity, you don’t need to interact with them if you dislike them; however I would say that PCDs are different than they are in their sources; they may not behave exactly the same.
What about PCD’s that are evil? Are they really evil in real life?
As stated above, PCDs are not like they are in their sources. For instance, I work with Blitzo from Helluva Boss, and while his general personality is the same as it is in Helluva, he himself is different. He has more understanding and knowledge of the universe as a PCD, and while in the show, he struggles a lot with issues such as communication. Working with him, he’s helped me learn how to communicate better. The same goes for ‘evil’ PCDs; while they might be evil in the show, as a PCD they will not necessarily be that way. They may become more like trickster deities, however they are not generally going to be harmful.
As usual, I would like to thank @astralscraft for helping me with writing this. They always give me so many wonderful questions to answer, and they always help me make sure everything is as clear as it can be when I’m writing these. Thank you so much for helping!
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𖤐 Inverted Pentagram
Stars:
★ Five-pointed Star ✶ Six-pointed Star ✷ Eight-pointed Star ✹ Twelve-pointed Star
Elements:
🜁 Air 🜂 Fire 🜃 Earth 🜄 Water
Planets:
☉ Sun ☽︎ Moon ☿ Mercury ♀ Venus ♁ Earth ♂ Mars ♃ Jupiter ♄ Saturn ♅ Uranus ♆ Neptune ♇ Pluto
Astrology:
☊ Ascending Node ☋ Descending Node ☌ conjunction ☍ opposition
Egyptian Deities:
𓀭 or 𓁰 or 𓁱 Ptah 𓀲 or 𓀴 Osiris 𓁐 Goddess 𓁚 or 𓁛 Re 𓁟 or 𓅝 Thoth 𓁠 or 𓁡 Chnum 𓁢 Anubis 𓁢 Upuat 𓁣 Seth 𓁤 Min 𓁥 Hathor 𓁦 Maat 𓁨 Hah 𓁩 Amun 𓁮 Menthu 𓁯 Tatenen 𓂕 Nehebkau 𓆫 Selkis 𓅃 Horus 𓋇 Seshat 𓋋 Neith
Alchemy:
☿ Mercury (Mind) 🜔 Salt (base matter or body) 🜍 Sulfur (Soul)
♁ Antimony 🜺 Arsenic 🜘 Bismuth = Boron ⊛ Magnesium ☽☉ Platinum 🜏 🜍 Sulfur
Runes:
ᚠ FEHU - F: Cattle ᚢ URUZ - U: Brute Strength ᚦ THURISAZ - TH: The seeing of the future ᚨ ANSUZ - A: references the ancestral god, Odin. ᚱ RAIDHO - R: Journey ᚲ KENAZ - K: Beacon or torch. ᚷ GEBO - G: Gift of Harmonic Relationships ᚹ WUNJO - W or V: Bliss and Glory ᚺ HAGALAZ - H: Destructive forces ᚾ NAUTHIZ - N: The Negatives of Human Needs ᛁ ISA - I: Ice ᛃ JERA - J or Y: The Cycle of One Year ᛇ EIHWAZ - EI: Yew Tree ᛈ PERTHRO - P: Initiation, Things Unexplained, Something Hidden ᛉ ALGIZ: Z ᛊ SOWILO - S: The Sun ᛏ TEIWAZ - T: Tyr, the sky god. ᛒ BERKANA - B: Birch-goddess ᛖ EHWAZ - E: The Sacred Horse ᛗ MANNAZ - M: The nature of Humanity ᛚ LAGUZ - L: Water - Emotions ᛜ INGWAZ - NG: Fertility ᛞ DAGAZ - D: Daylight or Dawn. ᛟ OTHALA - O: Ancestral property - Inheritance
Other Egyptian Hieroglyphs I thought were interesting:
𓂀 Eye of Horus 𓃠 Cat 𓃩 Set-animal 𓃶 Goat with collar 𓆣 Scarab 𓆸 Lotus
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Introduction and the History of Godspousal
First off, I would like to highly recommend the book Spirit Marriage by Megan Rose; this book is a fantastic resource on godspousal that shows both historical and interviewed accounts of godspousal. Another term for godspousal is spirit marriage; this term is a broader term that covers more than just ‘gods’ in spousal. Another word that is commonly used to describe this is spiritspousal (generally used to describe a spousal relationship with non-deity entities). For this post, I am going to use the term spirit marriage or spousal, since these terms describe this more broadly. (I do generally use the term godspousal as a catch all term, however for this post, I want to use spirit marriage or just generally ‘spousal’ to avoid confusion).
As this book describes, spirit marriage is not a new-age phenomenon, it can actually be found pretty much as far back as written history exists; there may be other instances where oral records had evidence of spirit marriage as well, but seeing as oral tradition may or may not be recorded, there isn’t much evidence of this.
Different Types of Spirit Marriage
There are a few different types of spirit marriage, which I will describe here.
Devotional- this type of spirit marriage usually involves the person devoting themselves almost fully to one or more deities. A lot of their craft may revolve around these deities, and there may be special things they do for and with these deities they are devotionally married to.
Platonic- this generally involves a closer relationship with the deity, it can also go alongside devotional spousal. This is a relationship where the deity and the person may do things such as cuddle, hug, or even kiss. This relationship often involves the person relying on the deity/deities for emotional support or comfort when they are needing it.
Romantic- this type of spousal is the most common type of spirit marriage, and the one that most generally is referred to when someone is talking about godspousal. Being romantically spoused to a deity/deities often involves a long process that can take years. Generally, romantic spousal includes a courting phase that can last months or even years. During this time period, the practitioner and deity/deities are getting to know each other. Some of the ways that spouses may get to know their deity/deities is by going on dates with them, getting to know them via meditation, and communicating with them through divination, clairsenses, and channeling.
Familial/parental- this type of spousal is similar (and again can also involve) platonic and devotional spousal. The deity/deities will often take on a more parental or familial role within the person's life. The practitioner may lean on the deity for emotional support and comfort. The deity takes on a very parental, sibling or possibly uncle/aunt type role, depending on what the practitioner is needing. The practitioner may go to the deity for advice or otherwise treat them as a family member. The deity, in turn, will view the practitioner as one of their own family.
How old do I have to be to be a godspouse?
Some of the information I’m including in this section is going to be a bit controversial, however there are historical facts that I am going to go through here that I feel are important (and interesting).
It is my belief that for romantic spirit marriage, a person should wait until they are at least 18 before even considering it. However, historically, there are records of romantic spirit spousal happening to people (specifically girls) as young as 12. This is mostly seen in Hindu culture (and is covered in the Spirit Marriage book mentioned above). Instead of forcing these young girls to be in an arranged marriage, these girls would be spiritually spoused to Shiva, or sometimes Shiva’s son, until they were older.
The main reason, in my belief, that someone should not consider spirit marriage until they are older is not due to their age; deities do not hold the same human standards and morality as we do, they do not follow our laws and rules. Instead, this has more to do with maturity. Spirit marriage is a lifelong commitment and a very deep bond that you share. It is not something that someone does on a whim. Just like a human marriage, it takes years to get to know the entities involved, to bond with them, and to decide if ultimately you want them to be around you the rest of your life. Spirit marriage involves making vows, just like a human marriage, that you must uphold and keep. Sometimes, depending on the culture, the deity may even require the practitioner to be an open channel for them; allowing the deity to channel through them whenever the deity wishes, and even possibly allowing the deity to live permanently in the person's body so that they may do this. All of this requires someone to have the maturity to understand the depth and meaningfulness of this type of relationship; something that most teenagers (and even some people who are in their early 20s) will not truly understand. While divorce is sometimes possible, it would be similar to a human divorce, with many years of fighting and debating to decide if that is truly the best course of action for both parties. Divorce when it comes to spirit marriage is incredibly rare (the Spirit Marriage book actually does mention this as well).
Can I be spoused to multiple deities?
This question has already been alluded to, but yes, you can have multiple deities as spouses. In the book Spirit Marriage, there is a person who has about 7+ spouses that are listed. I personally am also spoused to multiple deities; some of the deities I am spoused to have been spousing me for many many lifetimes as well, and our spousals have continued into this lifetime.
How do spouses interact with their deities/entities?
As with some of the other posts I made, there are multiple ways to communicate with deities/entities. Divination is a very common way to do this, as well as using the clairsenses. Channeling is another very common way that a lot of spouses end up communicating. Interactions such as going on dates can often happen in the astral realm, the realm where non-corporeal entities reside. Some people will also go out on dates in the physical world, going to a restaurant or other places they enjoy and allowing their deity/entity spouses to accompany them.
How do I know if a deity/entity wants spousal?
Generally there will be very clear signs when a deity/entity is wanting spousal. You may even be able to feel it in the energy they give off; they may give off a flirtatious vibe (although there are some deities/entities that have a very flirtatious energy in general, so please make sure you are using discernment and doing divination to confirm that they genuinely do want spousal). Other ways they may show you are by being around you constantly; they may outright tell you they want spousal (if you’re able to hear them). Some deities will send practitioners dreams about marriage or otherwise romantically-inclined dreams to signal they are wanting spousal. Some deities may mention it while the practitioner is doing divination with them.
Is sex involved with romantic spirit marriage?
Yes, sex can be (but is not always) a part of romantic spirit marriage. Again, similar to the above question about interacting with spouses, this often happens in the astral realm. This can also happen through self-pleasure. Spiritual pregnancies and spiritual children can also be a result of this; energy from the deities/entities as well as the practitioner's energies can go into making a spiritual child (or children). Multiple deities can also be involved in the creation of these children. With me and my wife, since we are spoused to some of the same deities, sometimes both our energies go into our spiritual children as well. In these situations, either the deity or the practitioner can become spiritually pregnant, and there may even be physical symptoms of pregnancy involved as well if it is the practitioner who gets pregnant. Even masculine deities can get pregnant (deities are very genderfluid in nature).
How do you balance spirit marriage with physical relationships?
This is going to be individual to each practitioner and their spouse(s). Some deities/entities will allow someone to have a human partner or human relationships, while others will forbid a human relationship. This is also something that needs to be discussed with your spirit spouses, as some people will be ok with never having a physical relationship, while with others it is something they will require in their human lifetime.
For me personally, I got incredibly lucky in that my wife is also spoused to many of the same deities I am, so our relationship and spousals often coincide with each other very well.
What is a spirit family?
Spirit family can describe several things which I will go through here. Spirit family can refer to the human people who your soul tends to reincarnate with and who your soul was made alongside. This can include people such as soulmates, twin flames, etc.
Spirit family can also refer to the actual deities/entities that helped create your soul (this can also be referred to as soul family); many people have several deities/entities that would consider themselves to be parental figures (for me, I have several soul moms and dads). The person may also have deities/entities that are brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, and grandparents. Many times these deities/entities will have influence over the person’s personality and behavior (from what I’ve seen, a lot of times the soul parents will have the most influence. For me, Loki is one of my soul dads and he has influenced my personality greatly this lifetime. I'm incredibly chaotic, but also incredibly empathetic just like him).
Spirit family can also refer to deities/entities that have adopted you as one of their own in past lives (or even in this current one). One of my spirit mothers, Yemoja, adopted me from a past life and still considers me to be her family (she takes on a motherly role for me).
Can I be spoused to someone who is also part of my spirit family?
Again this is another controversial question, but again I would like to point out that deities and other entities do NOT follow human laws and standards. They do not see things the same way we do. So the answer to this question, from my perspective, is a resounding YES. Loki is one of my soul fathers, and he is also the main deity I am spoused to. While in this lifetime he did start out as a father figure to me, and I grew up feeling that he was more of a dad than any other father-figures in my life, our relationship evolved and grew. As I started to get older (around when I was 18-19) I no longer needed him to act as a father figure to me. Our relationship evolved, and we eventually became platonically spoused when I was around 20. After that, our relationship continued to evolve, and at around 22 I accepted that he wanted to change our spousal once again to a romantic spousal.
As for human relationships, I do want to go into more detail about soulmates, twin flames and other such terms. There are a lot of huge misconceptions about these concepts due to the media we have (social media, tv shows, movies etc). I want to go through the terms soulmates and twin flames, and cover the misconceptions many people have about these relationships.
Soulmates
Soulmates are often a term that, in media, describe your ‘one true love’ that you are destined to be with. In reality, soulmates are people who were created alongside you and who often go through similar life experiences; you may be able to relate to them very deeply about similar experiences you have shared during your life. Most people have multiple soulmates, and not everyone will always be in a romantic relationship with their soulmates. I have encountered instances where someones pet, their mom, their dad, their siblings or even their best friends are their soulmates. I see many sibling relationships where this is the case in fact, where two siblings will be incredibly close, best friends, and will always be loyal to each other no matter what. These ‘ride or die’ sibling relationships can sometimes indicate that these two people are in fact soul mates. While some soulmate relationships are definitely meant to be romantic, that’s definitely not always the case.
Twin Flames
Twin flame is another term that is often misunderstood or misused; some people use soulmates and twinflames interchangeably, however from my experience, they are two different categories of soul bonds. From my experience, a twin flame is someone who shares a part of another persons soul; twin flames often mirror each other in many ways, although unlike how soulmates may mirror each other in experiences, this tends to be more mirrored interests as well. As with soulmate relationships, I believe someone can have multiple twin flames, and that not all twin flame relationships are purely romantic.
Karmic
The last soul bond relationship I want to cover is karmic relationships. These relationships can form over time from any type of soul connection someone may have with another person. These relationships are toxic and unhealthy; a lot of times the two people in the relationship will feed off each others negativity or bounce the negativity back and forth. Again, as with other soul connections, these relationships are not just romantic. These karmic relationships also often require cord cuttings in order to sever the bond between the two people so that they can grow and learn apart from each other.
As usual, I would like to thank @astralscraft for helping me with this post! I'm sure that this is not all the information I can give about godspousal; feel free to inbox or message me if you have questions!
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