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Do you think Kai took liberties when heading to the Monastery? Do you think he stood infront of a mirror making sure he looked and acted the same before the merge happened? Do you think he cracked more jokes and laughed too hard when he was with Lloyd? Do you think he quietly mumbles the names of the people who helped him leave the realm of monsters in fear of forgetting them? Do you think the reason he talks to himself more is because its become a habit for him? Do you think he was relieved when Nya broke them out of the fear vision, and that he really was back home? Do you think he got deja vu seeing rontu and egalt? Do you think he found the nether space comforting? Do you think the reason he was so calm during everything is because he was desensitized? Do you think he's okay?

Because I don't.

This is what happened I was the mergequake

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Alright guys time for another theory post:

What did we really see in the Phantasm Cave?

We’ve generally accepted that the Ninja and Co. saw visions of their (arguably) greatest fears: Nya and Jay, Riyu and Wyldfyre, Sora and Arin. All pretty rudimentary.

Then we get to Lloyd. Main character that he is, his fear is much more layered. This got me thinking back on the visions we saw, and even those we didn’t, and what they might mean. I’m going to highlight the interesting bits that you may have missed upon a first-watch.

Arin:

- scene opens with Arin misidentifying his parents as Sora and Lloyd, then he approaches them

- not the last time he does this: shows up again in the season 2 finale after Arin fights Ras, but the opposite way. Arin thinks he sees his parents when it’s just Nya and Lloyd.

- after his parents are revealed, he suddenly can’t move anymore. He just runs at them without moving forward

- notably, his mother asks “Why haven’t you found us, Arin? Are the Ninja your new family now instead of us? Did you forget us?”

- Arin only responds to/denies forgetting his parents, but doesn’t address her other questions.

Arin fears that his attachment to the Ninja compromises his parents’ love for him. He’s able to make progress in his ninja training, albeit slowly, but hasn’t gotten anywhere closer to finding his parents. He blames himself for taking so long. He’s not worried that he won’t find them: he’s scared they’ll hate him when he does.

Sora:

- notably, her vision isn’t in or about Imperium itself. Beatrix and Ras represent the regime of Imperium that she ran from.

- these two appearing on a video screen ties in her elemental tech powers, as well as her “we are all dragons” speech from the season 1 finale, which was aired on a similar TV system

- she’s grabbed and pulled into the screen by a bolt of electricity: not a hand, not any involuntary movement, but the lifeblood of her element. We’ve known about elements having overlap since season 11, so this is likely another tie-in to her powers.

- a golden hand appears through the screen at the last moment to grab her. It’s unclear if this is Ras or Beatrix, though the electricity appears from Beatrix’s hand.

Sora has been exploited by Imperium before, and that was before she discovered her element. With a power that’s so utility-based, she’s afraid that her powers are going to bring her more pain. Choosing to activate the Photacs back in season 1 must have really stuck with her, especially since the Ninja nearly lost the battle because of her decision. She couldn’t stand to put others in danger again like that. And unlocking her true potential solidified the divide between her and her parents. In her own words: “I’m a dark cloud. Bad luck seems to follow me everywhere.”

Lloyd:

“Your team needed strong leadership and did not receive it.”

“But, I had these visions, and—“

- in an attempt to justify his actions, Lloyd tries explaining his visions; though he doesn’t know how much he can trust what he sees, it’s the only lead the team has. Lloyd continuously doubts his decisions based on his visions, so why would he be excusing them now? Perhaps as a way of justifying his inadequate leadership?

“I blame myself, nephew. I felt you were ready to take over for me. But I was wrong.”

- Lloyd puts Wu on this pedestal for being a “perfect” master. He’s able to call him that despite Wu’s mistakes and shortcomings, but Lloyd can’t give himself the same treatment. He doesn’t deserve it: he’s not worthy.

“You will never / be good enough.”

- Ras appearing here is really telling. He appears in his Imperium garb because this was the point when Lloyd’s mistakes in leadership came with tangible consequences: during the battle for the second monastery. His team was put in danger because of him. Not only is Lloyd not good enough to be a master, but he isn’t good enough to properly deal with this looming threat.

- Lloyd has also observed Ras’ leadership of both the Claws of Imperium and the wolf mask warriors and how effective he is. He’s much more organized and mentally sound than Lloyd, and he keeps winning. He consistently keeps coming back. By all of Lloyd’s metrics, Ras is a better leader than him.

Nya:

- this vision seems to be set up to imply that Nya regrets not loving Jay more before he disappeared. Because she didn’t care about him enough, he’s gone and forgotten their relationship altogether.

- Nya’s previous fears in the series have been: failure (S5) and becoming ordinary (S11 + 15). This vision ends up combining these two: In Nya’s failure to find Jay after the merge, she’s become ordinary to him.

Nya is the first to realize her vision is fake. I believe this is because hers was the only purely external conflict among all the visions. She’s able to separate herself from the given situation because what she feels for Jay hasn’t changed. She hasn’t been absorbed by her self-criticism or mistakes because she’s not doing anything wrong: Jay forgot her. She has no fault or control of that.

Riyu and Wyldfyre:

- Riyu and Wyldfyre are implied to have had similar visions regarding Wasting Sickness. It’s revealed later with Egalt that Wyldfyre has experienced the effects of Wasting herself among her clan. And Riyu coming from the Mountain dragon tribe would have also likely seen the devastation of Wasting.

- Both of them would have encountered this disease when they were much younger.

- We also learn from Egalt and Wyldfyre that Wasting primarily impacts older dragons. Both Riyu and Wyldfyre have older dragon mentors/family members: Heatwave and the Matriarch. I bet they saw these two suffering from the disease and were unable to help.

Kai:

- we are shown next to nothing about what Kai saw (thanks, show 😤), but his reactions paired with this pattern of analysis can give us some idea.

- after coming to, Kai glances to Nya, huffing a sigh of (what seems to be) relief. He looks to Nya first, notably. Remember, these animation choices are deliberate.

- when Nya says “It couldn’t be real”, he makes this face:

- Her conversation with Lloyd seems to sour his mood. Nya seems to think that just because her vision seems impossible, everyone else’s must have been just as unrealistic. And Kai disagrees. What Kai saw was likely something that could feasibly happen, or something that already happened.

- In a more meta sense, we can also assume this is a more recent conflict, seeing how none of the OG Ninja’s visions touch on relevant plot beats from before Dragons Rising.

- taking into account this ask to Doc Wyatt from a few months back:

I believe Kai’s vision had something to do with wandering the merged lands alone. This would explain the attention drawn to his relief at seeing everybody ok. I imagine we’ll get more info from Kai about his travels, but I’d respect the writers’ decision to leave this ambiguous.

So where does that leave us?

What I believe we’re seeing in these visions are the Ninja’s regrets. These commonly stem from underlying fears of theirs, but there’s not as much terror involved with this sequence.

From a writing standpoint, this is a deeper exploration of character than simply living their greatest fears. Given the opportunity, what’s one thing you would go back and change? One mistake that you’d fix? These visions force these characters to confront these questions head-on as they struggle to rationalize their past behavior.

Feel free to share your thoughts and theories in the comments or reblogs! I’d love to know if I’m cooking or not on these longer theory-crafting posts.

Do you think Kai took liberties when heading to the Monastery? Do you think he stood infront of a mirror making sure he looked and acted the same before the merge happened? Do you think he cracked more jokes and laughed too hard when he was with Lloyd? Do you think he quietly mumbles the names of the people who helped him leave the realm of monsters in fear of forgetting them? Do you think the reason he talks to himself more is because its become a habit for him? Do you think he was relieved when Nya broke them out of the fear vision, and that he really was back home? Do you think he got deja vu seeing rontu and egalt? Do you think he found the nether space comforting? Do you think the reason he was so calm during everything is because he was desensitized? Do you think he's okay?

Because I don't.

Yknow asrik you really cook with these

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I always try to stop myself from mass reblogging ur posts because I don't wanna seem weird

But

Everytime you post it's like you specifically picked something from my brain

I hope this isn't weird

Hey so lets talk about Kai being used as the comedic character and being a lot more sillier than usual in Dragons Rising when you remember that before all this, literally just a few months beforehand, Kai was suffering the horrors tm

i’ll assume we’ve all watched the Ninjago monstrosity trailer, and if you haven’t go forth solider and may your heart crumble to pieces once you do.

In Dragons Rising, Kai’s character tone is similar to the one from season 8 onwards in the original series. Except the silliness factor is a lot stronger. He’s constantly cracking jokes, being unserious, teasing and messing with people. He was just a general menace.

And i know a lot of us, including myself, believe its cause Jay’s not around to be the comedic relief character. But what if it’s also because they’re trying to enforce a sense on unnaturalness with Kai’s attitude within us? To clue us in that the way he’s acting isn’t normal, that he’s wearing some form of a mask?

Because personally i think that would be really cool writing if Kai’s mask starts crumbling the moment they get closer to that land of monsters he was stuck in for who knows how long.

Kai's vision in the phantasm cave was simple. Very simple. All there was was a mirror, about the same height as him, with a black stand and body. It swayed a little in the wind, the wood creaking, maybe due to age or decay. At first, he was confused. Maybe he looked around and couldn't see anything. Maybe he just shrugged and cracked a joke about missing his reflection. Besides, what's so bad about a mirror?

Then the air changed.

Maybe it grew thicker or carried something more foreboding. Deadly. Maybe the ground felt slightly rougher, jagged rock digging into his soles more evidently, harder to ignore. Maybe his skin felt itchy, like something was crawling under it.

Maybe everything suddenly became familiar.

Then he looked back at the mirror.

And it was him.

No, not him. Him. Not the Kai, who was reliable and strong, the Kai who was everything a ninja and hero should be. It was the ugly, dirty part of him. The one who gave up their morals in order to survive. The one who he'd long thrown away and pretended never existed.

The real him.

Back in his leather robes and monster fur coat, the smell of dirt thick on his form, the katana he forged with his blood sweat and tears attached to his side. Like it always was. His face was covered, his hat planted firmly on him. It was like he never left. Or it never left him. Something wet coated his arms as his reflection stared back at him, unblinking.

And maybe Kai thought, painfully, that it was over.

Then, as suddenly as it started, everything was back again.

The whiplash was strong, but years of resilience made him good at hiding those things. He quietly looked around, maybe pinched his arm, making sure he was back. For real this time.

He could hear Nya behind him, telling Lloyd that she broke out because she knew it wasn't real. And she's right. She knew Jay could never forget her, and because of that she knew her vision wasn't real, just a fake scenario made to test her.

But Kai's vision was.

It was real.

His fear wasn't becoming a monster,

It was returning to being one.

If I have to suffer you all too

sooo… we gonna ignore this or not??

Im learning dragon anatomy wtf is going on