i think anyone who’s interested in dick and bruce’s relationship should read batman/nightwing: bloodborne. even if you don’t read comics like that. even if you don’t care about them. it will change your life. it is one single issue and it will fuck you up for the rest of time i PROMISE. if you don’t know how to get the comic literally just ask me i will give you every link that exists to read it i’ve been spreading the gospel on twitter for months. PLEASE…. issue about dick having to save bruce at potentially the cost of his own life on the anniversary of the graysons dying… i’m sick
the reason I hate the "Tim doesn't trust Dick after Damian/spyral/ric" is because they are besties your honour.
Like there's a post going around that I cannot for the life of me find that says Dick is Tims trusted adult and they are so right fr ong.
Because despite what Fanon believes Dick is a pretty chill guy and people take one look at him and go "let me unload my emotional baggage on you"
There's like a very famous panel (that im too lazy to find or remember the name of the run its in okay don't yell at me) where Tim basically goes "soooo my girlfriends pregnant" and Dick nearly falls off the roof.
Tim is calling Dick for the dumbest shit imaginable to the world ending and so are the rest of the batkids.
so I have taken the Canon that Dick knows if not all but most and generalised it to hell.
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Jason has been on a team with like 80% of OG titan members
they're having gossip session
Jason in a war zone dodging bullets with his bat travel mug in his hand: And THEN! Kori and Roy shared this look and you know the look they give you when they're judging you for bat reasons and you're like tell me why you're mad I was raised by a crazy person my normal levels are skewed.
Dick in NYC with a blueberry bagel In one hand, his Turkish coffee in another, just finished meeting up with Donna who gave him THAT exact look: No REALLLLL why are they like that, just tell me which one of the creepy traits I internalised as a child is bothering you.
Jason: omg you get it anyway so I grab the bomb and start playing soccer with it because its round and im bored and starfire takes it away like idk what im doing? bro ive been bombed I know how to work with a bomb..
Dick: hmmm and then what happened
Jason: and then.....
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Tim: Dickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Dick: yea Tim
Tim: Kon is being a dick
Dick: oh?
Tim: yeah and its really starting to bother me man
Dick who knows Kon is dead and Tim is either hallucinating or drugged to be more susceptible to manipulation and is already on his way: hmm tell me more babybird whys he upsetting my lil brother
Tim about to tell Dick what is a fever dream bc he contracted pneumonia and is loopy off his ass on painkillers:
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steph does this more with babs in the hero scene but its just... so easy and totally gets into the habit of it after Dick is her Batman for a bit and now she uses him as her civilian life therapist
Steph on her way back from campus: and then this bitch looks me up and down and pours her coffee cup down my shirt!
Dick on his way back to blud after decking bruce in the face: hold on hold on hold on she did what??
Steph nodding vigorously even though he can't see her: pulls my whole ass sweater away from my body and pours her peats coffee down my goddamn shirt Dick.
Dick: omg she didnt
Steph still nodding: she DID and then I found out from Jonny who found out from Vivian that someone told her I made out with her boyfriend at Leos house party
Dick who has no idea who any of these people are: wait but you were at Leos for like an hour max last week. we has smoothies after.
StepH: exactly so I had proof that I wasn't there and confronted her and went like. I don't want your crusty ass alt white boy whose favourite 'indie' band is the neighbourhood. I dated Tim fucking Drake the OG crusty ass white boy and I don't do repeats
Dick choking on his coffee:
Steph: anyway we are besties now and planning on getting her boyfriend back because apparently he cheated on her with this drop dead gorgeous girl and im high key a lil complimented she thought we were the same person.
Dick who initially called for casework and is actually so happy one of the people he calls siblings is actually like living a life outside of vigilantism: tell me more
Steph: you sound a little teary
dick: don't worry about it
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Damian: Richard
Dick: Damian
Damian: so I might be skipping patrol with father
Dick:? what you love patrol??
Damian: and school
Dick: Dames? what's going on:? is everything okay? you can talk to me
Damian: I am volunteering at a hospital
Dick: kid
Damian: Listen before you sAY anything I know what we do is important but I think I can help in another way and -
Dick had brown parents and was training for the olympics at 8, totally knows what its like to have insane expectations and rebel with a day job: kid kid calm down okay? you wanna be a doctor? is that it?
Damian: well? I dont really know but I just? there has to be another way to help people. besides what we do I mean-
Dick: Alfred left me Thomas waynes journals I initially thought they were to bash your fathers head in when he was being stupid but it seems the old man was looking out for us. Wanna take a stab at your other grandpas legacy when you come over next weekend. I'll tell Bruce we patrolled so you get a few more days off.
Damian: you're the best
I need in my life Tim Drake who does rely on adults but really only one and Bruce is jealous as fuck about it.
"Tim where's your spleen, why haven't you told anyone about this"
"I told Dick what you talking about"
"Tim you played baseball in outerspace why didn't you call for backup?"
"I called Dick"
Why didn't you tell us you were bisexual"
"Dick's known for years? Wym?"
You see my vision Bruce, Alfred, Jack Drake I need these adults pushing for Tim to talk to them or ask for help and this boy to just constantly be like Dick knows, I called Dick, why would I call you.
Dick's sitting pretty knowing everything not surprised by a single fact because if it's the stupidest thing or the most important guess what Tim called him.
The man knows and sees all because Tim heard once that you tell a trusted adult important stuff and well Tim has only ever trusted one.
Bro this whole discourse over who would be a republican/ a trumpie in the dc verse is so stupid imo bc we have so much canon info
Batfamily: none of them have been even vaguely conservative since the 90s, infact they’re all pretty far left with Bruce being the most center because he trusts one (1) cop. (Oooh but dick was a cop, yes as an infiltration tactic until he realized they were too corrupt -he was also like 19-20 during this time- to fix and canonically doesn’t work with them at all as a rule)
Bruce rebuilds his city pro bono like twice a year and single handedly funds like 80% of their social welfare, it’s also canon he refers goons to the nearest Wayne enterprise and gets them hired if Batman knows they’re just their bc they’re struggling
Arrows: NEVER INSULT OLIVER QUEEN IN MY FACE EVER AGAIN. This man is 50% a communist 50% Bernie sanders biggest fan depending on the media.
This man would never be a republican ignoring the arrowverse like it’s actually canon that Ollie won’t shut up about politics
Superfam: … the illegal alien who has to hide the fact he’s different from everyone else in a small town…. Hmmm maybe Kon is conservative if you’re blind, deaf and a little slow, Jon has a pink haired boyfriend and is besties with a middle eastern/south Asian kid actually so let’s not?
Clark Canonically hates the KKK you think he’d be part of the party whose candidate was endorsed by them??
Flashes: Barry Allen is a conservative, Wally west was when he was younger but he’s been pretty liberal since he became as adult, Wallace has never been conservative (TV Barry you will always be the most likeable Barry)
Lanterns: Hal Jordan is a Conservative, the rest are in fact not
Wonder Woman collective: Diana??? Donna??? Artemis?? Cassie??? None of the above don’t be dumb
Anyway it’s pretty hard to have a heroic character who doesn’t believe in social welfare? Since they’re running around saving people for free and 99% of them are anti killing. + having characters be sexist, racist and/or homophobic makes them less likable objectively and also narrows down the amount of stories you can tell.
Tim Drake fans who shit on Dick Grayson are just as baffling like that’s his emotional support hyperfixation turned sibling excuse me
dick grayson fans who shit on tim drake are so baffling 2 me like that's his little guy excuse me
Dick:….
Jason:….
Tim:….
Dick: okay so was anyone gonna tell me Bruce is dating Joe Chills daughter or was I supposed to figure that out by myself.
Jason: HES WHAT
Tim:???????
Damian: I think I just threw up in my mouth
Cass: …is this that Freud guy you were telling me about?
Steph: somehow worse? I think?
Jason: Idk where does dating the daughter of your parents murderer fall on the Oedipus scale of morality?
Tim: more importantly where did you find out this information?
Damian: please tell me it’s a tabloid so I can bleach my brain of this conversation.
Dick: Babs tipped me off that something was up and I stalked em for a week
Tim: Ah classic
Jason: you really have one trick Grayson
Dick: Hey! No I do infiltrations, Tim and Cass are the stalker duo
Cass: *nods*
Jason: so… Bruce is actually dating the kid of the guy who offed mama and papa Wayne. That’s cold. I’m a little impressed actually.
Tim: Clark was RIGHT THERE
Dick: so was Selina
Steph: we could’ve had a Step wonder mom
Cass: you’re not adopted
Steph: is Wonder Woman was in this family I’d marry into it
Tim: *nods solemnly* Bernard would understand
Jason: Talia was there
Damian: that might be worse actually
Tim: nothing is worse than this
Dick: actually I might agree with Damian
Dick: anyway zatanna
Jason: didn’t you date her
Dick: that’s another timeline ignore it
Tim: Constantine
Damian: Dent
Dick: I’d take viki vale over this
Jason: same
Dick:…hey Duke can see into other realities right
Jason: depends on the writer..
Dick: when does he get back from his families
Tim: he stops by for 45 mins to steal some pastries and check his gear before patrol
Dick: … wanna see if we can get him to look into other realities and see the worst person Bruce has dated
Jason: yes
Tim: yes
Damian: no
Cass: yes
Steph: yes
Dick: you’re outvoted Damian I’ll see all of you tomorrow at the cave bright eyed and bushy tailed!
Listen my moms Muslim my dads Christian I was raised agnostic but still it doesn’t matter everyone can use the capitalist holiday to eat a fuck ton of food and day drink
Merry winter time
Being trans and working in an office is funny sometimes
I love being in psych bc I learn shit like
Men’s brains get less sexually aroused when they smell women’s tears compared to saline solution (based on BOLD signals from fMRI)
Which means rapist just do it for the game and the “oh what she was wearing” “he can’t control himself” “men have urges” thing is wrong scientifically as well as morally, logically, ethically and all the other ly’s
So if you say this I’ll take a guess and say if I were to fMRI ur brain there would be no activity.
Like I love an AU right so if you wanna write about if war games never happened and Gotham didn’t try to ruin itself once a week cool fine slay (keep Dick self destructing for years it’s good content idm)
But for the whole tarantula thing to HAVE an impact I feel like you have to acknowledge that he it never would have happed to a character as weathered as Dick (even at the time when a solo nightwing was supposedly more new to the scene)
But like no it only works when you see how many people died bc of blockbuster and how that weighed down on him as a person.
Blockbuster didn’t just ‘discover his identity’ Maxine Micheal’s was a big reason it happened and when Nightwing confronted her she got shot in the head in front of him
Dick figures out that they know his identity Like 4 issues before the blockbuster confrontation
When Firefly makes his first reappearance since no mans land to burn his circus down
This was after Babs, Tim and Cass had all been targeted
And then 1 issue later
Dick leaves earlier (and makes a bad daywing pun no im serious i love him) for patrol and then watches his apartment blow up. Which would be angsty by itself if you ignore the fact that
1) the dude (yoska- and they have like a weird relationship bc of ras al ghul and like he firmly believed he was dicks grandfather biologically and even when that was proven false he moved to bludhaven and admits he still considered them family) teaching dick his own language was in there
2) dick found his dead body in the rubble
3) dick actually bought the apartment building to keep it from being demolished and indirectly kept all those people in the building
Anyway you don’t NEED to read the comics imo as long as you engage with the other content like yeah you’re a dc fan if you like any of the animated properties but like why write about a plot point without knowing the surrounding moments doesn’t that take away from the premium angst content?
+ I didn’t really like or finish war games or his whole like let’s join the mob thing featuring the unironic name “crutches” after but come on the deathstroke and rose shit was so interesting!
Today in challenges for Nightwing fanfic writers - writing fic that makes it obvious the person has:
Actually read Nightwing #92-95 (1996)
Knows the context in which this story happens (what events precede this and which immediately follows it?)
Is aware what Batman characters have met Tarantula
Can outline the occasions when Dick and Catalina are in contact AFTER Nightwing #95
Heck can name literally any appearance for Tarantula after Nightwing #93 (1996)
Can explain the discussion Bruce and Dick have in Nightwing #117 (1996) and how that discussion relates to everything above, and what is not mentioned in that discussion
It shouldn’t be this hard.
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