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TROS / REYLO DUMP 3

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he speaks truth @reylos watch it

Was kylo redeemed with his sacrifice to rey? Do you think that negates all his past actions ? Regardless of the motive or cause ?

“what does he have to be redeemed for?” Adam Driver 

You can tell the frustration  during the interview, that he himself has been thinking about it so much, that he delved into what made him Kylo Ren but also human, that HE knows the backstory. 

A backstory that was almost completely absent from TROS, if you count Palpatine “ I was every voice you ever heard in your head” inferring manipulation and lies.  The story omits completely his childhood, the feelings of betrayal he felt as his own parents feared him, the way they sent him away and the ultimate failure from his own uncle is not once mentioned, it omits that he never massacred his Jedi friends ( comic) that he never destroyed the temple, that he felt so alone,  traumatised and ashamed that he went to the only welcoming place : Snoke / aka Palpatine

He was a victim, with a feeling of helplessness and depression so strong that seeking the dark side by killing his dad was really a form suicide. 

You’re son is dead // My son is alive // ergo kill the father to kill the son at last

Han Solo tried to bring him home in TFA and failed, but once Rey admitted that she loved Ben Solo, he went back to the moment he killed his father, the moment that tormented him with his guilt. He replayed the scene, and this time He really heard and understood what his father was telling him, he welcomed it.

His  father’s love, his mother’s love were unconditional and he could go home at ANY time…. they always loved him. At this moment Kylo literally TURNS around, he turns and THROWS aways his lightsaber, and later off screen the top layers of the Kylo Ren persona,  to reveal only BEN SOLO, damaged and all. He freed himself.

I think, the Han Solo scene shows that Kylo/ Ben had to forgive himself first, before moving on, he was held back by guilt and resentment and thought he had done too awful a thing that it was impossible to come back. 

Finally Ben SOLO came for REY. It was not Kylo anymore.

Ben Solo never had anything to be redeemed for, he was a victim.

But even then, he made the ultimate sacrifice, selfless, without thinking twice about it, he gave Ben Solo’s life to Rey, out of pure LOVE. He is more than redeemed, he’s a hero in that scene. 

The movie does not do him justice, by telling us what’s happening to him. We can only read the subtext, he’s either one with Rey, making her Skywalker, or one with the Force, but they only wanted to have the legacy Force ghost in the end, as new parental figures, or he is somewhere yet unknown. The story is cruel because it does not really bring closure to his fate. 

BUT Ben solo is a hero. 

do u ever think about how batman and the joker are literally soulmates and go fucking feral

TROS - What did I even watch? Or how I lived to see the day Disney murdered a prince, left Cinderella alone in the desert, and hoped for the world to rejoice because it was “fun”?

Dear friends, I’ve been here for the spoilers and I’ve even talked with some of you. I went to watch the movie today, with 0 hope of anything except of seeing my baby Ben Solo and Adam’s fenomenal acting (and listening to some good John Williams). 

I knew it would be horrible, but as @nevernerdenoughblog said seeing it makes it even more. Like @clairen45 it felt so wrong. Should I rejoice with a Reylo kiss that Rey gave but seconds later didn’t even cry over Ben’s dead body? I refuse to acknowledge this characterization of Rey. She was the only one that ever believed in Ben Solo, she shipped herself to make him know he was loved and wanted and to help him. Where was this Rey in this movie?

I am sorry guys (especially for the tagging) but I need to write this out or it will eat me and you guys are the few ones that relate to my pain. You know what really hurt me the most in all this? Toxic masculinity disguised as feminism.

1) FAREWELL HEROINE’S JOURNEY

They trashed the Heroine’s Journey. They murdered it and spit in its face. JJ Abrams simply decided that the Heroine’s Journey (done in act 1/ep. VII and act 2/ep. VIII) was not cutting anymore and decided to send Rey on a Hero’s Journey (ep. IX only, new 1st, 2nd and 3rd act altogether), where she has become this almost toxic masculine fighter under Leia’s training  — Badass girl? Yes. Full of anger? Yes. Logical? Yes. Connected to anything? No, not even herself, she kept on the run, afraid. In search of the Jedi detachment? Yes. —, only to send her happilly off to a desert planet in the end of her journey and finishing with her alone talking with an old lady.

Which remind us of the start of TFA, meaning she has comeback to what? Luke didn’t even comeback to that “home” in Tatooine the end of his Hero’s Journey? So she went to a place of death to what? This is a slap on the face of the Heroine’s Journey. This is how toxic masculinity corrupts and interrupts the most uncomfortable (to psychologically unhealthy bystanders) and fundamental (to the woman herself) phase of Heroine’s Journey: You want love, family, a partnership, connection, nurturing or progeny? That is weak, it is foolish. You need to fight, to conquer, to take, take and take. Otherwise you won’t be strong or independent.

REALLY???????????

I AM CRYING! WHY? WHY? WHY? Daisy, are you really seriously satisfied with this ending? Because REY DESERVED BETTER. 

BTW, BEN SOLO DESERVED BETTER! The true feminist of this story DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER! ADAM DRIVER DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER! He always respect the director’s view, does his best to accomplish it and brings his best acting to the table. The only saving grace in the whole movie to me was Ben’s arc because 1) Adam was doing it and 2) He honored his character. Man he deserved so much better!!!!!

I’m not even going to repeat what everyone already said about where is George Lucas’ Fairytale Story, because you guys said it all. But I have a beef with Disney executive decisions:

2) WALT DISNEY - HOW I WISH WALT WAS ALIVE

Walt Disney. Much have been criticized concerning his choices to make HEA in fairytales. But what now? We find balance by wanting our children to grow up to be cynic and seeing the feminine as weak? Unhelpful? Bad? 

“Yo independent women! You need no prince even if you have one. He can compassionately and selfelessly die to save you because he loves you and you can go off, happily, to celebrate with your friends! You don’t mourn his body, oh no. You don’t tell him you love him. You forget him. You go be that cool lonely warrior.”

Excuse me but I can kick ass and have the romantic love life and children I want! I can have both! Because I am a human being and I deserve it. This is not a matter of being a men or women. This is a matter of balancing the feminine and masculine within.

But that is not just it. BEN SOLO DESERVED BETTER! WALT WOULD NEVER, EVER LET A CHARACTER THAT WENT THROUGH ABUSE AND SO MUCH PAIN DIE THE WAY BEN SOLO DID! Is that a Disney movie??????? I mean, what did I just watch????

Walt Disney, the man who promised P.L. Travers, upon knowing who Mr. Banks was to her (her deceased alcoholic father) and what Mary Poppins, her work, meant to her, said:

“George Banks and all he stands for will be saved. Maybe not in life, but in imagination. Because that is what we storytellers do. We restore order with imagination. We instill hope again and again and again.”

THAT IS WHAT STORYTELLERS DO! Like so many fanfic writers in this fandom @nite0wl29, @stargazer1116, @intp-slytherin97, @eleanor-writes-stuff, @postedbygaslight, @raven-maiden, and so many others!! Btw, thank you all!! My vacation starts tomorrow and I’m going to read again all your amazing fics to regain exactly that: HOPE!

What was TROS? Leia and Luke believing in the good in Rey? The whole Jedi Order believing in her? I have nothing against that but why didn’t they believe or help Ben too? Ben didn’t receive any of that love, WHY? What was wrong with him? What did he do?! He was the most selfless of souls, just like his Father and Grandmother. Is this vicntim blaming??? WHY DISNEY, LUCAS FILM and JJ ABRAMS, WHY?!

I used to think people were wrong when they said Disney was only doing SW for money. Because Walt Disney also said and lived by this rule:

“The important thing is the family. If you can keep the family together — and that’s the backbone of our whole business, catering to families — that is what we hope to do.”

SW is about family and I refuse to accept ep. IX as SW. It has all the make up of SW, but it lacks the heart and very essence of it.

As dear @eleanor-writes-stuff said, so much for criticizing Rian Johnson, only to consagrate his work. That man honored the storytelling art and I’ll be forever grateful to him for his touch in SW and for how his writing touched and changed my life. And I know Waltz would have approved too because he also said:

“I prefer to entertain people in the hope that they learn, rather than teach people in the hope they are entertained.”

3) PLOT? WHAT PLOT?

Leia’s feelings for Ben have remained ambiguous, you can both read her as someone who wants her baby boy dead (because her death allows Rey to stab Ben to death if she wants to, when Ben was never going to harm Rey) or not. Actions speak louder than words, and this was the movie when Leia would have the chance to assume the responsability for her mistakes and take action, instead of only claiming she believed her son was alive.

If she clearly wanted to reach Ben, was Maz’s words needed? No, they weren’t. It was exactly because Maz needed to voice it that proved Leia’s actions could be read as ambiguous. Again, actions speak louder than words. Her body only disappeared after Ben’s did too because what? She was expecting him to die so she could collect his soul?

I dearly love Leia’s character but LEIA DESERVED BETTER! CARRIE DESERVED BETTER! In the end I’m not sure what to make of the ST Leia. She could have helped Ben but clearly sent him away to Luke because? What?

Ben Solo get his redemption from his own 2 hands + his father’s memory (not force ghost) + Rey’s confession. In the end he becomes the bride of the monster, only to die right after, in a what? Plot twist?

Finn, who? That was so messed up! Rose? Poor Rose!!! Hux? Oh Hux deserved better too. I was glad to see that Poe matured though and grew in his arc.

I’m also mad and confused about other plot points:

Ben throws his bleeded kyber krystal away because of his father. Okay. Why did no one help him when he cried on the Force to crack his kyber and soul, but Luke Force Ghost appears to catch Rey throwing a lightsaber in an on fire tie fighter?

Rey would turn to the Dark side if she killed Palpatine, right? 5 minutes later she won’t turn to the Dark Side anymore even if she still kills him in anger? Just because the self righteous jedi chose to let Ben get thrown down the abysm by himself but Rey was the Chosen One?

Still on this topic, so she choses to give up her soul so Palpatine uses her body as the vessel of his soul and the legion of siths, in order to save her friends, but she won’t take Ben Solo’s hand, even if she claims she wants to + retaining her body, to do the same?

I think force bonds don’t make much of a difference anymore when one of the parts dies. Ben can die and Rey seems pretty okay?

INTERESTING FACT: Beside me there was a father with his 6 or 7 year old son. The child kept asking what was going on everytime the movie introduced any plot twists or too much information too quickly. When the Reylo kiss came on screen, you know what the kid said? “I told ya!” I wanted to cry when seconds later the boy was claiming now was Rey’s turn to bring Ben back. Children understand the Heroine’s Journey and it doesn’t scare them. It is beautiful like that. The father then had to try and explain to the boy that other things were going on and that no, “that guy was gone”. What have you done people?

4) EPISODE X

I must have a clown face. They lied to us about this movie being “The Rise of Skywalker”. Maybe they lied to us about this being the end of the saga? Considering JJ claims this is fun, happy and hopeful, yeah, I doubt they are making an episode X or ressurecting Ben Solo after throwing in the garbage the Heroine’s Journey. I vaguely remember Adam also said he wasn’t going to appear in another SW.

IF they do announce an ep. X, I’m not watching it unless Ryan or someone like him directs the movie.

I loved to see Han Solo’s memory helping his son. That man trully loved him and it is tragic that he screwed up as a father only because he thought he wasn’t enough to be a good one and that Leia and Luke would know better.

I also loved to see Ben Solo as his father son and grandchild to his grandmother and great grandmother. He was beautiful and I love him and he’ll be forever with me.

I liked the Reylo kiss… but Rey’s actions in this movie have affected me so that it doesn’t feel like they scrapped the surface of making justice to this that could have been the happiest and most balanced of all SW couples.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN EPIC. IT COULD HAVE BEEN GRAND. But it wasn’t.

I’ll forget TROS. YBTOTT is now canon to me, because it is a perfect 3rd act in this trilogy, and @postedbygaslight honors the Heroine’s Journey like few writers have the gut and courage to do. Thank you so much Wayne!

And if anyone had the patience to read this to the end, thank you. I feel it too guys, this was awful and horrible.

Things that J. J and Terrio "kind of forgot"

Leia sending her kid away with Luke because she wasn't a damn Jedi.

Ben's character development in the course of The Last Jedi.

Ben Solo never wanting to be a Sith and the fact he was never, ever a Sith.

Snoke not being a damn Sith.

Rey's outfit change that represented her character development and sexual awakening.

Rey's Heroine's Journey.

Rey's character development, compassion and feminity.

Finn's entire character development.

Finn not being Force sensitivity and leaving the FO by free will, not some shit about the Force.

Poe being the son of two famous pilots and not a damn smuggler.

The Force Bond sound effect.

The elevator where Ben and Rey talking having cameras, plus making it something that could hurt Ben's rule.

Ben accusing Rey of killing Snoke, which is never mentioned.

Palpatine being the OG Voldemort and therefore not wanting to be part of the circle of life but wanting live forever.

Pablo Hidalgo saying that Palpatine didn't have children.

... Selling your children to a horrible juke trader is bad.

Rey admitting herself that her parents were nobody.

Rey struggling with the Dark Side because her own shit life and not because some damn bloodline bullshit.

Luke not having idea of who Rey was when she met her, not showing any sign of recognition. Same with Leia.

"See you around, kid."

"No one is ever really gone." That was meant to Ben, not fucking Palpatine, you stupid hacks.

Rose being one of the main characters with an arc of her own.

Poe having an arc of his own.

Finn having an arc of his own.

Any of the characters sans Ben moving the plot.

Bringing people from the dead with the Force was considering bad.

Powers are not heritary. Count Dooku had Force Lighting too, does that mea that he was a Palpatine too?

Ben and Rey already passing the phase of fighting in their relationship.

Ben not wanting to turn Rey to the Dark Side.

Rey Nobody being already canon.

Rey hating Jakku.

The entire of TFA.

(feel free to add)

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