Apropos Of That Textdump On Villains I Had Last Week, Here’s Some Neat Analysis Of Demented The Clown

Apropos of that textdump on villains I had last week, here’s some neat analysis of demented the clown Dimentio.

ϡ Dimentio?

OH BOY NOW FOR THE FUN PART

I could go on for days about Dimentio, so I’ll try to keep it short (YES THIS IS SHORT FOR ME) and game-specific. More than mental state, I guess, these are the behavior rules I try to stick to for him, and why I think he does the things he does. 

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Dimentio is not a fighter.

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Since Cleanup Crew obviously isn't written in the gag-a-day format like many if not most other webcomics, it's given me a lot of opportunity to think about storytelling. And since I realized I have a ready-made blog for the comic here, I figured I'd file some of my thoughts here as they occur to me. Having played every Mario Bros. RPG through Bowser's Inside Story, I've come to the conclusion that one of the big flaws of these games is the villains. More specifically, their lack of motivation. Now, we can talk entertainment and characterization until the cows come home, about how much fun they are to watch, but the simple fact of the matter is that a villain needs a WHY, and no amount of plans or goals, the how and the what, will make up for the fact that there's literally no reason for any of these villains to do what they do. This failure of characterization steals context and meaning from their actions. Take Grodus, of The Thousand Year Door. As impressive as his organization is, as clever as the plot and storytelling are (that game does such tricks with the fourth wall that the couple of times it breaks it directly just barely limp along), it's really hard to get invested in the villains because Grodus simply has no -drive- to accomplish his goals, no reason to do what he does. Given the fact that he's a robot with a noble title and a pretend magic staff, his lack of even a token backstory is rather jarring. On the other hand there's Count Bleck of Super Paper Mario (which we will pretend is an RPG for conversation's sake), who suffers from a broken heart and intends to solve that problem by committing a rather exagerrated form of suicide. THAT is a motivation, something Grodus is severely lacking. In fact, Super Paper Mario gives a lot of character to its villains, judging from what you can dig up about O'Chunks and Nastasia. 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Cackletta is remembered primarily for being 50% of Boobser Bowletta rather than her desire to screw around with the all-powerful Beanstar; Fawful is bonkers and has a speech impediment, and "crazy narcissist" is not a decent motivation any more than "evil" is one, and then there's the fact that the guy has no real plan except to set himself up as the local bigshot until he decides to destroy absolutely everything just for the heck of it. The Shroobs almost have a motivation that you can reverse-engineer by studying their actions (do they *need* to prey on the Mushroom Kingdom?), but putting the burden on the audience like that is bad writing for lazy authors. This failure to motivate the villains is especially notable in Smithy, who argues with the heroes as if Super Mario RPG had an Honest to God *theme*. Smithy's got enough going on that you can almost piece together the motivation that should be there. 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