once again missing gillion tidestrider with my whole entire heart
More people than I expected enjoyed my chip rotting drawing so have my silly designs š«¶
They're not updated from the stuff more toward episode 100-115 cause I drew them right after the outfit changeš„šš„ i might draw updated versions soon who knows,,
I SHIT YOU NOT I THOUGHT THIS WAS TROY FOR A SECOND
chip is a fag 100% when I first saw that man i was like damn you a gay bitch twink ass haircut
again, going under the cut o7 let me know if i missed anything!
Hair up in ponytail
Bangs and hair on sides
Ferin pin in hair
Blue jacket, white shirt, multitudes of belts
LOFFINLOT ARC:
Hair on one side gets cut by bald men
Cuts hair on other side
DESIRE ISLAND ARC:
Gold and turquoise necklace from Aslana
BLOCK ARC:
Ring to control BLOCK (never mentioned again)
ALLPORT ARC 1:
Feather tattoo (chip made her get it while drunk)
NOCTIS ARC:
Loses a few teeth (blood orchid fight)
POST-FEYWILD TRAVELLING ARC:
Niklaus deal tattoo (middle of her back)
Magical friendship bracelets
REDESIGN (87)
Hair down
Gold hoop earrings
White tank top
More necklaces
Corset
Brown pants
Old blue jacket around waist
Black fingerless gloves
ALLPORT ARC 2:
Magical wing tattoo on back
BLACK SEA ARC:
One orange eye
Her leg literally melts and it's been mentioned several times but she's just? Powering through it?
Hair up in braids
for anyone who wants the pngs since a few people were asking :]
as long as it's for personal use only and NOT to sell, you are welcome to use it! and don't take credit for my design that's cringe āļø
this is a list of campaign's i have been personally sent to help share & donate to, every one i have included here has been vetted by palestinian tumblr users. i cannot personally verify fundraisers, so everyone i have included has already been verified. please take the time to donate to one of your choice & reblog this post.
Help Dina and her children survive through the war // @dina179 // on the vetted fundraiser doc #245 // 6,923/20,000 CAD
Help Moamen Majed rebuild his life after the war // @moamenmajed99 // vetted by @/90-ghost // $7,360/$30,000 USD
Mohammed Alazaiza's family // @isra-elazaiza // on vetted fundraiser doc #236 // $3,500/$48,000 CAD
Fadi Ayyad's family // @mayadayyad81 // on vetted fundraiser doc #174 // $28,508/$35,000 USD
Wafa's family // @wafaaresh // vetted by @/ana-bananya // ā¬6,320/ā¬100,000
Mahmoud Alkhaldi's family // @mahmoud1995 // vetted by @/90-ghost // $3,881/$50,000 USD
Yousef Hussein's family // @adham-89 // vetted by @/90-ghost // $9,672/$50,000 USD
Mohammed Taysir's family // @yazanfamily // vetted by @/northgazaupdates // ā¬2,944/ā¬50,000
Doaa & his family // @dodoomar147 // vetted by @/90-ghost //kr49,206/kr300,000 SEK
Hello everyone
Iām Malk Iām 14 years old but I am feeling that am 70 yearsš
My parents took great care of us, giving us everything they had, and my childhood was wonderful to some extent.
I lived through four wars, the latest being in 2021, during which we lost everything: our warm home and my mom's office where she worked in digital marketing.
My dad is one of the owners of the Jewel Tower, but my family decided to leave Gaza for Turkey in 2022 because the tower hadn't been built yet, and to provide a better life for us.
My dad couldn't leave Gaza, so he returned before the war because my grandfather was sick and needed care. I wish I were with my dad because I fear losing him.
The past few months have been the hardest for us and our family.
I hope you can help me by sharing the link and donating so I can get my family from Gazašš»šš»
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me when Chip JRWI
(kinda spoiled myself on accident on 109 and further so i finished this early :P)
version with titles and details
The Captainsā Loyalty
Meanwhile:
Context/part one/whatevah - here
Would be SO funny if the LOV all get arrested and go through sentencing. The judge is unusually hard on Compress, but lenient with the others and theyāre confused. They did more than he did. Is it because theyāre younger?
Come to find out that Compress has a rap sheet a mile long. Theyāre realizing theyāre all baby criminals compared to him. He is a repeat and unrepentant criminal.
Compress: I told you I was a thief, didnāt I?
Spinner: You hijacked a plane?!
Dabi: You stole from the British museum?
Toga: They had to change the military codes because you stole the cipher key?
Shigaraki: Identity theft? How many aliases do you have???
Compress:
Judge: You may want to check your wallets.
LOV: WHAT THE FU-
Chip desing from Twitter
Happy pride month!!!
Shout out to the gays
And by the gays i mean Chip jrwi and his fish boyfriend and his other fish boyfriend and his musical boyfriend snd his musical wife and his mechanic girlfriend and his orange farmer wife and his
I made a Which JRWI PC are you quiz and I would like some data
ok but imagine gillion being a full-on leviathan. following canonical info he should be hundreds of feet long, but in drawing this i just kept imagining him as a 3-foot-long critter which chip and jay carry around like an elongated cat
Trapped Family in Gaza Appeals for Help to Survive
A Plea for Help from Gaza: A Family Seeking Safety
Hello, I am Mohammed Alanqer, married to Enas Majed, and we have four wonderful children.
We live in the midst of the ongoing hellish war in Gaza, trapped between walls of fear and despair. I, Mohammed, am a father of four children and a husband to a woman who was two months pregnant when the war began.
We struggle daily to survive in an environment filled with threats and dangers.
I lost our sole source of livelihood when my tech startup, which I built with dedication and hard work, was destroyed in the war. My children, Layan, Sarah, and Adam, have been deprived of education after their schools were destroyed, severely threatening their future. Amidst these harsh circumstances, my wife gave birth to our fourth child, Amir, in the midst of the war, adding to our state of despair and hopelessness.
My wife, Enas, lives in constant anxiety due to the destruction of hospitals in our area. I have lost my job and source of income, leaving me unable to provide for my family's needs and safety. Our home was destroyed by the war, forcing us to flee repeatedly and rendering us homeless.
We now face extreme difficulty in providing a safe place to live, clean clothes, and food for our children. Additionally, our children have contracted diseases like measles, and our son Adam has been diagnosed with viral hepatitis.
Our only hope now is to escape this ongoing nightmare and find a safe haven for our family. However, this requires exorbitant financial costs; the coordination fees for crossing the borders amount to $5000 per adult and $2500 per child, a sum I cannot afford alone.
We urgently appeal for your moral and financial assistance to cover the necessary costs for escaping to a safe environment, where we can build a better future for our children and ensure our family's safety.
We are in desperate need of your support. Any donation, no matter how small, can help save our lives. Thank you for your attention and support during these harsh times.
GoFundMe Campaign Link ā„ļø :
https://gofund.me/afbb2b7f
With deepest respect and gratitude,
Mohammed Alanqer šŗš¹
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Note :
My account vetted by :
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I extend my heartfelt gratitude for your assistance in bringing back my voice and my family's voice to life once again. Following the deactivation of my old account, I am eager to revive our campaign with its inspiring humanitarian message.
You are more than just a team; you are reliable friends in challenging times. I am grateful for your swift response and ongoing support. I look forward to working with you again to repost the message and reach as many people as possible.
Thanks to your efforts, together we can create new opportunities and spread goodness in the community. I am confident that your continued engagement will help us achieve this common goal.
Thank you once again for all your efforts and unwavering support
I'mĀ Amal, 33 years old. My husbandĀ EyadĀ is 39, and we have seven children:Ā Hala (15), Nour (13), Abdelrahman (11), Mohammed (9), Omar (6), Ahmed (4), and baby Hoor, just 7 months old.
In the blink of an eye, we awoke to a devastating barrage of bombs.Ā The war had begun, and soon tanks surrounded us as the northern Gaza Strip was declared off-limits. We fled immediately from the north, leaving behind my husband who had to stay with his elderly father who cannot walk. The presence of checkpoints and the prohibition of vehicles forced my husband to remain in the Al-Zaytoun neighborhood in the north of Gaza.
My four-year-old son, Ahmed, suffers from diabetes.Ā It is a constant struggle to find insulin injections and test strips. Weeks go by without being able to check his sugar levels, leaving me in fear of whether his levels are too high or too low.
Ahmed's condition break my heart
My children are the love of my life
I fled on foot, just ten days after giving birth.Ā I carried my ten-day-old baby and my other young children, alone, fighting for their safety. A few days later, the northern Gaza Strip was completely isolated, leaving my husband trapped.
I cannot bear the panic attacks that Hoor suffers from the constant bombing
It was incredibly difficult to care for my children without my husband,Ā moving from one place to another. I finally sought refuge in a shelter school in Deir Al-Balah.
My children have been deprived of their father, who used to provide all their needs. Their schooling has been halted, and their mental health is in ruins due to the war.Ā My baby girl cannot get proper nutrition and is unable to sleep due to the constant sounds of bombs.
We share our room at school with 40 people, lacking water and sanitary supplies
My husband remains in the north, experiencing severe famine.Ā Periodically, I manage to contact him, learning that he is still alive, but his situation is dire.
We want to escape Gaza and survive this tragic war, to build a decent life for my family, providing the basics of life: food, medical care, and a safe home.
Your donationsĀ can make a world of difference for us. Every dollar can help us escape this nightmare and start anew. Your generosity can reunite our family, provide essential medical care for Ahmed, and ensure my children grow up in a peaceful environment.
Your kindness andĀ support mean everythingĀ to us. May God bless you for your compassion.
Greetings & Gratitudeš
Amal
ā ļøhigh volume warning
This is a silly little animatic I made a awhile ago, Iāve always wondered what the vestiges did when they were not being plot-relevant.
Sitting inside the endless void has got to be a little boring at times.
(The audio is from TheOdd1sOut)
Know that I am going to get pretty serious here, as this post is about Punkflower. I am going to talk about the age situation, the blatant racism ABOUT this ship, and to also talk about the ship itself*. There is also some talk about the shippers/non-shippers + Punkflower antis in general.
[*nothing negative! just like.. discussing it as a whole, because everybody needs to be aware of some important things. the shippers, non-shippers/people on neutral ground, AND the haters/antis.]
There is a BIG wall of text incoming, but all of it is organized to its very best at what I could do!! I first wrote this in docs, I did my best to make it not a whole chaotic mess to read through. It's a big post, but there's a lot of spacing and some text is coloured, so it will be very easy to read.
This is a very detailed and THROUGH post, so it is slightly recommended to read on computer for the best viewing experience.
[It's not needed as you can still just read on your phone/etc, I do want you lovely people to have the best viewing experience possible.]
There will be an expand button, so I will not clog your feed and the tags.
TDLR;
Dear punkflower shippers,
your prayers have been ANSWERED. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT SHIPPING PUNKFLOWER NOW š
punkflower shippers, do not live in fear no more, for I am here now.
Sincerely,Ā
tumblr user: godunforgiving
Edited Note (06/21); FYI, I am muting this! Read the edit change log at the end of this post for more information. If you have any concerns or inquiries regarding this post, do not hesitate and feel free to DM me!
punkflower talk/analysis(?) + talking about Hobieās age
This entire post is a discussion of various things, of my own thoughts and opinions! Some of the talk is about the posts + comments I have seen other people say about this ship [mainly questioning and worried ones.] All of the pieces of information that I knew were scattered, so I wanted to gather all of what I could find, and put it in a singular post for those still worrying.
[Also where others can actually just refer to this post and just read thru here first, instead of having to spend a lot of time going through the Punkflower tag to desperately find info!]
I would have gotten this finished and posted days ago, but you know, usual IRL things slowed me down, and I had to spend my day in the ER yesterday, lol.. Iām okay as of now! Just have to take it easy, but I really did want to finish writing my ass off with this post, since I know itās important to me and for many others out there.
Take your time to read through this, and please absolutely feel free to add any of your input/extra knowledge/anything that I should add onto this post. DMs can be the best, or just through the comments can suffice, because I can and will edit anything into this post [that is accurate aka there is backed up evidence/sources to go along with it.] If you do want to see something added here, just tell me and I'll see if I can manage!
I genuinely hope that this post can be helpful to you, as it will be helpful for me!
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Please know that; I will directly quote from many people, as all of them will be credited properly by being mentioned down below and leaving their username (that is linked back) with their respective quotes, because their own pieces of text really helped build this post! I cannot thank each person enough.
Do not be a piece of shit and go after or āwitch huntā any of them. Respect their own privacy and being.
users mentioned (IOOA): @comfortingnightmare, @luvvnobo, @ghostspider-isms, @saltylemonade13, @artisan-is-bored, @bellamer, @uglynavel, @peachypea0ny (fyi, site is not allowing me to tag), @crownecromancer, @raspberryjars, @spideyzpoolsp, @hamiltonforpowerpoint
[If you are one of the mentioned people, and you want yourself to be removed or become anonymous, please let me know ASAP!]
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Notes:
If you are colourblind (some of the text is coloured fyi! colours used are blue, pink, and purple), or have difficulty reading text due to it being too small, or can't read the font, etc, please let me know! I can give you a google docs link of this entire post that is best suited for your needs. No, you will not be a burden to me. Your needs are very important, and I will want to assist with the best that I can do with that!
I, godunforgiving, am on a mix of a positive + neutral ground on the topic of shipping Punkflower. I absolutely adore the comic!Punkflower, and I am fond of ATSV!Punkflower with the way I view it. Reason why I said neutral, know that I am not against the ships by any means!! But I guess why I say that is because there wasnāt a lot of canon media to consume [ATSV!Punkflower], and I want more [Also note that I have NOT seen the movie yet.] I donāt usually ādoā shipping when it comes to various franchises, I guess itās mainly just not my thing? But I do know that Iāve come to like Punkflower.
I do not ādoā discourses, nor do I intend to actively join them! This is my first time doing something like this / this being my first ādiscourseā, yet I hope for it to be my last. I made this post with the pure intention to help the Punkflower shippers. Do know that!! I know that many people do not like the topic of discourses, but this one and the problems Iāve seen revolving around Punkflower, I just have to say something. Bc idk if anybody else is going to [with the way I did this post], considering the mess that occurred days ago, but someone has to and has to do it properly.
I am autistic, so I may process words + information differently, or even āincorrectlyā. So if a sentence doesnāt make sense, due to perhaps my misuse of grammar, etc, please do not hesitate to ask/reach out, and I can do my best to re-explain it to you.
Negative comments [and comments directly to this post where the person is actually spreading misinfo], will be deleted. Know that if you decide that you disagree with this post, then okay! I am not bothering you, just as I hope that you will revert to ignoring me, instead of hating on me. Please have the common decency to just be kind or even donāt say anything at all, and carry on with your day.
If you have any concerns regarding this post, do not hesitate to reach out to me.
this post was originally inspired by a friend, then originally created for @feuille-morte, but it is finished for the rest of the punkflower fans, ily all. take care of yourselves!! anything for these cute silly little guys ok (and the entire punkflower nation)
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letās get started with an introduction.
āwhat is Punkflower?ā
Punkflower is a slash [aka queer] relationship between two black male teenagers, Hobie Brown and Miles Morales. Usually, it is perceived a romantic relationship, as some other people only see the pairing as a platonic duo and such. I do not know more forms of Punkflower, but I will use the 'main' two forms in this post. Comic![SG!]Punkflower [SG is Spider-Geddon, a comic series first released on Sept 2018], and Across the Spider-Verse aka ATSV!Punkflower.
Think of it as the same ships with the same characters, but in different fonts.
Comic!SG!Punkflower has existed for nearly 5 years now, likely first existing sometime in late 2018 to early-mid 2019. Both Miles and Hobie are very close in age in the comics, at around 16 to 17 years old. Away from Spider-Geddon(?), but still on the topic of comics, Hobie is still 16-17 in the comics.
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āpeople are saying Punkflower is a problematic ship!ā
The main [and probably only] source of this misinformation, is from a clip that was cropped to be posted with the intention of spreading heavy misinformation (We will get into that next.) So, as far as I am aware, and know; Punkflower antis are throwing around p/do allegations, because they hate the ship and they are outraged with people enjoying it. This hate is clearly rooted with racism, and homophobia. So, no, Punkflower is not a minor x adult ship!
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āthe interview talk, what happened, and what is actually real?ā
If youāve watched the interview, you can easily see that they were talking about the brainstorming process of developing Hobie's early ideas for his character. A director mentioned that in the early concept stage, Hobie was originally going to be 19-20 [This wasnāt even our Hobie, but Prowler Hobie.]
A person cut a very small clip of the mentioned interview, and uploaded it, a clip that was EXTREMELY out of context.Ā
The uploader cut out the part explaining that Hobieās āoriginalā age had changed as his character was being developed.
So from this, and no context given, a lot of people were instantly quick to hate; since it was on purpose to make the entire ship, AND those who enjoyed the ship, look extremely bad. What happened was not okay, yet this disgusting behaviour is at an attempt to be justified [and those people are trying to justify literal racism and homophobia.]
ā19-20 thing that the directors mentioned were Hobieās early designs ideas but those eventually changed as his character changed. Even one of the directors said its up to interpretation plus even his VA was all hinty towards Gwen and hobie so honestly its up to you what his age is" - comfortingnightmare
As soon as the clip came out, I had started to see a number of people saying that, apparently, Hobie looked like he was in his 20s to his 30s** (while also throwing subtle/discreet hits towards the Punkflower ship), but this was after the clip came out.
**Literally saw someone on Tumblr say that he looked like 28, and trying to shut down the idea of Hobie being a teenager. Like be completely serious with me right now..
Things donāt quite add up here. This was because of WHAT Hobie only looked like, and now it just has to be racially motivated, as there are no solid explanations or reasonings for their behaviour and disgust. Those people just look bad [as they should.]
So, no, Hobie is not 19-20. Another director had confirmed that Hobieās age is UP TO INTERPRETATION.
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[TLDR; The interview got taken completely out of context from a clip that made people start throwing SERIOUS accusations left and right.. Since more people actually later found out that the clip was taken out of context [instead of doing research], the situation died down, but people are walking on eggshells now. The haters were being desperate likely because Punkflower is a black queer/mlm relationship, since there is no solid explanation for this hating.]
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āSo.. what can we interpret Hobieās age as?ā
That is where I come in! I have many reasons that can help you decide what Hobie's age is to you. And those many reasons are speculated on Hobie's age being 16-17, as many users already guess that Hobie's age is equivalent to a teenager's age. I also believe this idea, as there are many things that already support this thought process.
[But if you like.. (god, I hope nobody does) go through this list and conclude that Hobie is 18+ and continue to ship that Hobie and 15 yr old Miles (or any of the minors).. GTFOH.]
1. Hobie Brown in other media (Iām talking about the comics for instance) is commonly shown for Hobie to be a teenager at either 16 or 17 years old.
āHobie is in fact labeled as ābadmouthed teenagerā since 2014 and is 16-17 in the comics and that just because he doesnt have a confirmed/canonical age in ATSV, hes still in the age range of a teenager (16-18)" - luvvnobo
2. Topic of the spider-bite.Ā
ATSV!Hobie is likely to be 16-17 years old (18 at the latest), meaning that he would have been bit at the ages of 13-15. So IF Hobie was bit 3 years ago / at 14 years old, then he would be 16-17.
Realistically, this really could have happened, considering Hobieās living conditions! [aka what led to Hobie getting bit by a radioactive spider in the comics.] If he indeed gets bit at 14 years old (like how Miles and Gwen got bit at that age for example), then either 16 or 17 yrs old.
Again, with how he lived; if he got bit at 13 = 15-16 years old in crrnt events of ATSV. [If you donāt know of Hobieās conditions, in the comics Iām pretty sure he, like, basically lived on the streets as a homeless teenager]
āDuring the "Spider-Verse" storyline, the Earth-138 version of Spider-Man is revealed to be Hobart Brown, originally operating as Spider-Punk. He is a homeless teenager who was transformed by a spider that was irradiated as part of President Norman Osborn's toxic waste dumping.ā - Spider-Punk: Wikipedia
The topic of the bite / needing to know if Hobie was (x) age when he got bit, isnāt very serious, as he is already grouped with 3 kids.
3. It would be unlikely (and also weird) for a four man crew to be 3/4 teenagers and 1 adult;
WHILE ALSO implying that the mentioned āadultā and one of the mentioned teenagers couldāve had something going on. [Even if nothing really happened (keyword = implying), and how Pavitr treated it in that way, implies that Hobie isnāt that much older than the three.] [I would have kept this reason combined with the Spider bite topic aka reason No.2, since itās actually referenced off of pastelnightgaleās post, just that this paragraph alone is solid enough as a separate reason.]
4. Hobieās mannerisms.
Note, I havenāt seen the movie, but I have seen many clips. From those clips, heās definitely a teenager at least, it made me feel like Hobie was 16 or 17 years old. Iāve asked two of my brothers; they said that he definitely was their age [both being 17.]
āmy two cents on the age debate is like. hobie doesnāt have the vibes of an adult even if his age is up to āinterpretationā. like iām eighteen and bro has definitely gotta be younger than that. he makes my āstupid younger siblingā sense go haywire." - ghostspider-isms
5. If you look up āhow old is hobie brownā
You will already see many people speculating that Hobie is likely to be around the same age range as Miles and Gwen [if not a bit older.]
Again, Hobie is already 16-17 years old in the comics.Ā
āin the spiderverse, we have seen that it is common for most spiders (gwen and miles specifically) to get bitten around 14. hobie states heās been spider-man for three years, meaning heās most likely 16-17." - artisan-is-bored
6. āLike if Hobie is really 19+ then why is it only a problem with Punkflower?? Wouldnāt the whole love triangle thing be a problem????" - saltylemonade13
Yes. It would be a SERIOUS problem. It also would make the other ships [Chaipunk, others with minors in them] very problematic and illegal ships. But Hobie isn't 18+.
7. Ageing down process happening to various characters in Spider Verse, and Hobie non affected?
If Gwen and the other spiders are aged down in Spiderverse, then it doesnāt make sense that Hobie was not aged down like the others.
8. Hobie literally hangs out around teenagers.
If an adult is constantly hanging out with other children, then that obviously would be the first problem. I wouldnāt really need to keep talking any more about this one. Because if a 19-20 year old was spending a majority of his time around young teenagers, ages ranging 15 through 17, and not really with anybody else his age or above, then yes, thatās already weird.
āitās also implied that miles is jealous of gwen and hobie. why would the directors make a key plot point of the story be that hobie is a grown ass man hanging out with a bunch of teenagers? and that he might have a thing with one of them???" - artisan-is-bored
9. Genetics do not matter within age.
This is one of my most common quotes by now. Hobie is indeed very tall at almost 6 ft, yes. No, it does not mean that he is above 18+ years old. Hobie can be over 6 ft tall and still be 16-17 years old.
I have seen so many teenagers at drastically different heights, but still be the same age. Many of them being over 6 ft [180 cm], and still being in my age range, and having met a 5ā10ā 8th grader [aka 13 yrs old] years ago. Both of my previously-mentioned brothers are 6 ft and over 6 ft, yet they are only 17.
āpeople can look one age and be another." - artisan-is-bored
āhobieās description as a character. hobie is a foul mouthed TEENAGER. that has been his description for the past five years." - artisan-is-bored
10. āhow do i tell them Punkflower has been a thing since 2018 or 2019 and they have interacted in the comics (they are close in age)" - luvvnobo
11. āHe has to be an adult, because he goes to pubs!!ā Letās be absolutely HONEST here.
ādude is BFFās with the Riri of his universe, she can probably whip up a fake ID in no time and even if Riri isnāt in the Spiderverse, he still gets around and knows people. heās definitely cool with someone who makes fake IDās." - bellamer
What bellamer said. To add onto this, a pub is different from a BAR as well.
If you look up āwhat is a pub vs barā your first result will be this.
To also add, all bars in England arenāt considered pubs.
āIf youāre 16 or under, you may be able to go to a pub (or premises primarily used to sell alcohol) if youāre accompanied by an adult. However, this isnāt always the case. It can also depend on the specific conditions for that premises. Itās illegal to give alcohol to children under 5." From the official GOV of the UK website
But literally, letās be honest here, Hobie would already know at least one person who will help him get in a pub, if he cannot do so himself. If Hobie is constantly going to pubs, then that does not mean he is getting drinks 24/7 when he is there, unless stated otherwise. Pubs focus on serving food and to give drinks [upon request] to go along with the meal.
Before 1995, children under the age of 14 were NOT allowed in pubs in England and Wales. And Hobie is definitely by no means 14. He is likely 16, or 17. He can already drink, with adult supervision, at 16 in pubs. But we know that Hobie is no law-abiding Spider-man.
12. āHobie wouldnāt be able to own his own place!ā
āitās a key part of hobieās comic backstory that he used to be homeless. once again, the breaking the law point still stands. wouldnāt be surprised if hobie bought an apartment with a fake ID, was squatting, or was staying in some sort equivalent of the community center that he used as his main groupās operation headquarters in the comics.ā - artisan-is-bored
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I do not think that another director/anybody who worked on the movie will come out and say that Hobie is actually 18+ at this point. I CAN be wrong in the future, but right now, he is not, and there are my reasons for why I strongly agree with the idea of Hobie being a teenager.
ALTHOUGH, even IF a director comes out and says that ATSV!Hobie is actually 18+, obviously all of the ATSV!ships with him and the other minors should STOP RIGHT NOW. But as of now [06/13/23 (when I first wrote this)], and from what we already know, I do not see anything wrong with ATSV!Punkflower and my views.
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The racism revolving Punkflower is disgusting.
Iāve seen a lot of people bashing Punkflower when the whole misinfo-hobie-being-19/20-situation occurred, but ONLY with Punkflower [from what Iāve seen.] I didnāt see any of this happening to the other ships that Hobie is in / shipped with Gwen, and Pavitr.
I have not seen any, quite literally nobody, complaining about any other ship that isnāt Punkflower, and itās insanely overwhelming and confusing?? People donāt complain when it comes to Hobie x Gwen, but if itās with two queer black boys? Huge problem all of a sudden.
āLove how when it was Hobie and Gwen no one batted an eye but as soon as people started shipping two black males together all of a sudden everyoneās disgusted and outragedā - uglynavel
ānone of yāall had a problem w gwen and hobie, but when hobie started getting shipped with miles and pav? yāall got pissed. get your racist and homophobic head out of your ass. even if hobie IS an adult in the movie, that still doesnāt mean that shipping him with miles in the comics suddenly isnāt valid. newsflash, gwen is MUCH OLDER than hobie in his universe.ā - artisan-is-bored
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Other quotes, that I wanted to point out, but I didnāt sort them into a spot;
āThere are a lot more weird problems in the ATSV fandom, yet people are worried about Flowerpunk and whether Hobie is of age, or not. Those problems are full on grown ass people sexualizing Miles, Gwen, and likely more. Thereās already stuff about Peter B. and Miles ship, and THAT is an active problem on hand. More people need to worry about all of that instead of a guy who has an up-to-interpretation age (but is strongly, likely, a 16-17 year old if not an adult.)ā - peachypea0ny
āI canāt even enjoy comic versions of punkflower without me being called a pedo or having multiple fucking comments telling me over and over that punkflower is a proship.ā - uglynavel
āIām sorry itās just really not fucking fair what In THE ACTUAL MOVIE it can imply something between Gwen and Hobie but the SECOND people started shipping two black boys together then it became a huge fucking problem, hereās the thing if Hobie is actually older and they never say that in the movie but imply something to the audience that him and a sixteen year old girl could possibly have something between them THEN THATS GROSS I DONT CARE HOW GOOD THE MOVIE IS! But Hobie is always, in other crossovers and his comics he is around 16, he has met Miles before in canon the shipās not new, it was just small.ā - crownecromancer (Edited to make sense, by me, godunforgiving.)
āpunkflower is originally a comic ship, its been around for ages before atsv, its normal for shippers to crossover into different areas where the same characters are. he doesnt have an age on his wiki and why would he be said to have a love triangle with gwen if he WAS 19/20, idk why ppl have such a problem with punkflower but not with hobie and gwen??ā - raspberryjars
āthis is what happens when you believe in misinformation on the internet. no, there is no age gap, because hobie does not even have a canon age. if you watch the interview, instead of 10 seconds of it, he says it was early concepts of hobie. another director has confirmed his age is up to interpretation.. so. yall rlly need to stop with this, its weird asl. this whole thing was rooted in racism and homophobia, stop spreading misinformation I BEG.ā - spideyzpoolsp
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Another disclaimer/notice;
PLEASE, PLEASE STOP BELIEVING IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE!! EVEN IN TIKTOK OR TUMBLR!
IF itās a piece of information that could be misinformation revolving around Punkflower or Hobie Brown, or anything, DO find out if it is real or fake asap!
Iām using a method that I remember from my elementary school that was constantly talked about [canāt believe Iād bring it up in a post about a ship years later], however it really does pay out and work anywhere else tbh. The āStop, Think, Act methodā.
STOP = Pause, if it distresses you; then take a breath to calm down, avoid doing anything on impulse aka don't do anything without thinking carefully beforehand.
THINK = Instead of the āwhat is the problem, what are the options, best path forward?ā in the method itself, we will reuse this but change stuff up that can apply directly to this post. So after stopping and calming down, we will think carefully and review what we already KNOW. If itās where the piece of information is easily seen/known as misinfo, then you are good. If the piece of misinfo is affecting something that we already know, then we move onto the next step.
ACT = āProceed with the best option. Act carefully, and revise if needed.ā The best option forward from thinking, is to do research, and make sure that it is actually real, and not misinformation with lies laced within. IF it is indeed misinformation, then it is the best to alert others, with proof.
If you are thinking āBut why even mention that method??ā The best example to use this method is with the age discourse blowup. A LOT of people believed in the misinformation very, very fast. What shouldāve happened is that the mentioned method shouldāve occurred early, to help prevent most of the freak out and its damages. But many users may not have thought of that, or even know the method, so it is okay. At least it calmed down a lot as of now, just that people are now likely afraid.
[Note; I am NOT blaming anybody!! I also freaked out a bit too, but I stuck to what I already knew, until I found more information. At first I heard āHobie is 19-20!!!!ā I figured that it mustāve been misinfo through what I already knew, because adding all of what I knew and this uproar of info, it just didnāt add up from what I alrd knew. but I still researched and did my homework!! Just that more people should naturally second-guess things that they are suspicious of and also be aware of that method and to apply it online, as it is already useful in real life!]
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Wrapping this post up, finally.
Itās sad to see different Punkflower fans fight each other. But itās also outrageous and annoying to see the plat!Punkflower shippers, who see Miles and Hobie strictly in a brotherly relationship, to throw the term ā!ncest / pseudo-!ncestā against the romantical Punkflower shippers.. Like holy shit, that doesnāt make you any better. Can people, please, stop throwing serious accusations against other people so nonchalantly?
These accusations are SO serious and life changing, even if it's pointed at the wrong person. But people are just too ignorant to realize that unfortunately.
āYou see him (Hobie) as 19/20 whoās a big brother to the other spiders? Cool! You see him as 16/17 rebel teen amazing!ā - hamiltonforpowerpoint
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Reblogs, likes, and comments of your own opinions of this post are so welcome!
Again, ily all and take care of yourselves!!
and again, if anything you think that should be added onto the post, let me know! have a great day everybody
A friend asked whatās up with the discourse, asked me to make a post, after hours of research - I absolutely fucking DELIVERED. Love you guys.
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Edit #1 (06/15); had to reformat some things since it just looked broken to me! Using the editor on mobile is a PAIN.. 0/10.
Edit #2 (06/16); an edit update! I rewrote some things (to hope to make the post sound more better), added some stuff in the notes section and some throughout the post itself, updated the crediting so the quotes used are credited and linked back to hell!!!! bc crediting others is awesome! and the post is also def over 4.2k words lol
Edit #3 (06/17); An anon told me that I was āmisusingā the 'proship' term, so I edited the post. Proshitters can go to hell for all I care. To clarify, I am talking about problematic shippers. Edit #4 (06/19); oh my god 600+ notes?? i hope all of you are having an EXCELLENT month okay.. i love you guys <3 /plat
Edit #5 (06/21); I am muting this! I saw some people reply to this post, but I just do not have the ability to respond to them (Selective mutism), I did write ādraftsā to them, but I do not feel like polishing it and responding. Just busy with other things, honestly! I may end up responding some time later, so yeah. If you have any concerns or inquiries regarding this post, do not hesitate and feel free to DM me!
Every once a few weeks I may check up on this post as well, until I stop altogether.
There's an interesting metaphor in Troy being portrayed as both an awful, irritating guy (accusing people of cheating because they beat him, trying to start rumours about people with "jax shit my pants", treats his only friend like his personal clown) and also excluded by airheart (not allowed in the winner's lounge, bad relationship with his father, etc). He's human trash, both because he fucking sucks, and because he's been discarded.
And then he falls down the literal trash hole, into a world where all trash is valued and important, where it's all sorted and put to use wherever it's strengths are needed. Nothing goes to waste. And presumably here, Troy will find a little group of friends, real friends, who will value him without letting him walk all over them.
One man's trash is another man's treasure
I just had the idea ever. So we all know and love Empress Malice. A redhead from a small place who played music and was a huge inspiration everywhere. I wonder if that resembles anyone in real lifeā¦
something something chip knows celestial and is undead. something something fallen angel boy
FALLEN ANGEL BOY IM FUCKING WEEPING
Thinking about everything settling for a minute and Gillion looks at Chip and something flashes in his eyes, something that Chip canāt name. Itās like grief, but itās also something that Chip is afraid of. He remembers suddenly that Gillion is trained to kill Undead.
Gillion takes a stumbling step forward towards Chip and instead of doing something logical, like backing away because he understands that Gillion might try to kill him, he meets Gillion in the middle. And Gillion collapses into him. And Gillion is crying. Because his best friend is now one of the things he was trained to kill on sight.
And Chip reaches for something in the back of his mind, something to calm Gillion. He starts to sing. He sings a lullaby in Celestial and Gillion is shuddering with how hard heās crying.
The voice of an angel, an angels song, yet coming from a now unholy throat.
16 yr old Touya and Keigo + their 13 yr old weirdo friend Tenko š§”šš¤
( Theyāre on their way to pick up Shoto from school )
I've had a chat with a woman named Suad and she's trusted me to share her story with you all.
Suad is a young engineer from Gaza who was excelling in her field, and had recently been told that she is pregnant. She had a bright future ahead of her until disaster struck and Israel and their constant bombings destroyed everything she holds dear.
She and her husband are now living out of a tent like many Gazans now. They have had to struggle to find food and water, and not only this, but Suad is also trying to nurture an unborn baby without access to adequate food and the prenatal care that a pregnant mother needs.
She is fundraising now to get herself, along with her husband and their family members out of Gaza. They require $20,000 to get out of Gaza and an additional $8,000 for transfer costs and living expenses in Egypt.
(ID in Alt)
As of right now, they have made only $2,732 of their goal and their situation is urgent. Suad is now nearly 9th months along and will be giving birth to her child very soon in very dangerous conditions for both herself and the baby.
Please donate whatever you can to this fundraiser, and if you cannot donate, I urge you to share!
[we can always meet again within one for all. romantic, right?]
take a wild guess who my favorite character is
anyways here are the full/alt images for the last two! and im dropping some doodles from twitter
additional tweet to the hc, this is the only way i could actually get behind white eyed yoichi
now im contemplating wether to post the kdch fam au or kdch stuff next (since both sides got alot of content that i didnt post here yet)
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