Im sure that the main reason why antishippers say that "lolicon is csam", "darkshipping is illegal", "proshipping is unhealthy", yada yada, is because they just want more people to side with them.
So, basically spreading lies on purpose to try and get some people onto their side. While calling or relating dark fiction to propaganda...
Think for yourself and know your facts before going ballistic over drawings and fanfiction of characters.
istg i'll see ppl say shit like "im fine with media depicting abuse/rape/whatever as long as it isnt glorifying/romanticizing it" then turn around and say cannibalism is a metaphor for love and that murder conveys devotion. i hate to inform you but youre romanticizing violence
I wonder if something could be said about Ashley's apparent penchant for drawing.
Leyley used to draw a lot. This, in itself, is nothing special: many kids draw as a hobby. The most noteworthy thing is that Leyley loved to draw so much, she'd do it on the walls, which Andy had to clean...
... and on Andy's notes, which made it difficult for him to study.
I don't need to say that this is just one of the many ways Leyley begged for attention and approval, which most surely had the opposite effect.
However, what made me pause a bit are three completely separate scenes.
This is in the very opening of the game:
We don't see Ashley drawing as an adult, but she doesn't seem to be very confident in herself. Then again, at this point in the game, it could be just goodhearted self-deprecation. It does say something, however, that she's still clinging onto that drawing, both because it's so old and not good-looking, and what it represents.
This is after Ashley, as a teen, has a meltdown over Andrew "seeing Julia":
Andrew is being mean, but to be fair to him, he's also angry and interprets the torn drawing as a way to make him feel bad, so I'll let it pass. The artstyle is so crude, I assume this is another old drawing: the lemon muffin is a reference to a way Andy celebrated Leyley's birthday when they were kids, so it's possible she drew it back then. And then kept it for years, before destroying it in a fit of heartbroken rage. It's how she conveyed her love for her brother, and it was that important to her, that apparently, she still had it in grabbing and tearing vicinity. Her hate for Nina is as important as her love for Andrew.
(the other option is, of course, that it's a much more recent drawing, and yes, this is a pretty abysmal way of drawing for a teen who apparently has been doing so for years. I still wouldn't call it garbage though, Andrew, she meant well :<)
Not much after that scene, Andrew also tells us this:
Whether Ashley still draws in her teen years or has stopped, at least we know it's more important to her than her homework, and enough for Andrew to comment on it.
And this is an offhand comment Renee makes to her mother while pretending she doesn't regret her life choices and children.
This is how Renee chooses to paint Ashley in a good light: by praising her art. Which is a lie, of course, because even back then she wasn't exactly Leonardo Da Vinci, but hey, grandma doesn't need to know about that. Worthy of note is that, despite doing everything in her power to interact with her daughter as little as possible, she did notice how much Leyley likes to draw (although afawk it could be because she once saw her drawing on the walls, so it's even more of a backhanded compliment).
So I suppose Leyley's cry for attention did work, in part.
It's a running gag that Ashley is a pretty bad artist. More than once, people point out she struggles to draw circles.
Speaking of attention seeking behavior, and how Renee keeps denying it.
So, what do I take from this?
That Ashley had a predisposition for drawing, clearly enjoying it regardless of her talent, and partially did so as a way to yell "look at me! I'm a person too! I have feelings, here they are!" at the world; but that predisposition was never nurtured, neglected as she was. Her art was ugly at best, a bother at worst. So she never developed her artistic skills, stagnated, and now she's a "bad" artist, which she resents. It's quite a shame, because of all the ways you could vent your feelings, art is by far the healthiest. Perhaps she would have been less destructive.
Naturally, this is part of one of the game's key themes: Ashley never grew up. She wasn't given the tools to, and now, she doesn't even want to. So she never developed past the "Leyley" phase of her life, still drawing in a childish way, still "playing" with her bunny plushies in her mind, still clinging onto her child self when Andrew wants nothing more than to grow up (or so he says). Much like her art, she too was seen mostly as an embarrassment, and so never improved. But every scrap of attention Andrew gives her? Means the world to her. And that's why she keeps going.
Lastly: every ending of the game comes with a crude crayon drawing.
It makes me believe that Ashley's art, ugly and childish as it is, is an important part of her, and her perception of the world.
Before S2 came out I thought that Vi was going to be forced to be an enforcer because her sisters a terrorist and technically she's not supposed to be out of jail so they'd give her an ultimatum to be sent back to jail or be an enforcers until they catch Jinx. And I thought the conflict between her and Cait would be that Cait didn't stand up for her or try to find another solution. that'd be cool
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the worst part about being a closeted proshipper is when one of your friends mentions a relationship (platonic or familial) that you ship very hard and you have to pretend you arenโt insane about them
all the andrew julia shippers and โandrew is a victim onlyโ people have disappeared. amazing
With how much Tsumugi loves Junko, and the Odd writing choices she made, it wouldn't surprise me if she shipped Despaircest
oh 100% there has never been a single doubt in my mind about that she is in fact in the naegi/mukuro tag as we speak spreading hate over it
Junko Enoshima and Mukuro Ikusaba from Danganronpa are in love. There's nothing you can do to stop them.
you're so based for loving kuina from aib!!!! she's so good!!!! <3 <3 <3
Thank you so much!!! <3
And yes, she's so interesting, a girlboss and definitely the best girl โก
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