first of all, YOOOOOOOOOOOO DOUGLAS SPRITE HE IS A CHARACTER AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!
Love the implication that it's because Renee loves and cares about him. To their children, he is not a real person.
(tbf, he calls Andrew the wrong name so yeah can't blame him)
But more importantly, just as the beginning of the episode gives us an insight of Douglas' parents (overbearing sexist father, meek mother), this vision fleshes out both parents but especially Renee's family situation.
At 15, her parents gave her the ultimatum of either aborting or being kicked out. She chose her boyfriend over her family: they married, and stuck together no matter what. This already says a lot about her.
It's clear that part of this virulent hatred she's showing is not just because she, understandably, is bitter about not receiving support, but because part of her parents' worries ended up being right. Sure, Douglas is not an abusive asshole, and it's touching how much she defends him as much as he defends her. But raising children is much harder than she apparently thought. Look at how much she lies to her mom that they're doing swell. No way she's going to bitch about Ashley to her mom :)
The fact that Renee was kicked out might also explain part of her atittude towards her kids. She's not kicking them out, not even when Ashley became of age and was still a problem for her. Sure, she urges her to find a job, but in a more "normal" way. She's not going to put them through that. Although, of course, she expects to be thanked profusely for that.
Funnily enough, I think this cements for me that, despite Andrew seeing himself in his father, he's more like his mother, while Ashley might be more similar to the dad. Renee's main concern is, much like Andrew, appearances. She doesn't want to be remembered as the mom of two killers. She doesn't want to admit she screwed up by having kids so young. She lies and lies to pretend everything is fine and they're all a happy family. Douglas, on the other hand, is so apathetic that he accidentally echoes Ashley's complete lack of care for consequences. "welp, it's bad, but they're kids." I think this is ultimately why Ashley has Douglas' eyes and Andrew has Renee's eyes.
Oh! And, according to Renee, Andrew is "Accident" and Ashley is "Mistake". Makes sense. Andrew was most likely not wanted. But since he was a good kid, they chose to have Ashley... and Renee is regretting it every day.
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i'll never get over how badly people who want to come up with ideas of how tcoaal can be "better" or "fixed" miss the points of anything.
like the other day on twitter i see this thing like. "THIS INCEST SHIT SUUUCKS IT SHOULD JUST BE ABOUT TWO SIBLINGS WHO JUST EAT ALL THE PEOPLE THEY DON'T LIKE" and it's like. oooh whoโs an edgy boy yes you are oooh what a hot take your statements are so controversial what an edgy boy
and the other day like, some of my friends show me this tcoaal rewrite that involves a big sister Ashley (i only saw this post once and don't remember it well). different mom that's an entirely different shade of abusive and a whole different kind of trauma put into Ashley who wants to be a boxer now in defiance of how she was raised and i'm like... why does this have to be a tcoaal rewrite? you've created a genuinely really interesting concept... just tweak it to remove tcoaal from it's DNA entirely and you have this super solid original story idea. and i'm just here like... it's just so annoying. you have this fantastic idea for something original, why do you need to bill it as what makes canon better?
like, it's fine. it's fine to not like the incest. as much asi like to make fun of antis, there ARE genuine fans of this game that aren't really big on coffincest but like everything else- but at least THEY still acknowledge the incest is an important part of the story's DNA and it's themes, so even if they're not in it to ship it they're still here to enjoy the story.
it's always so boggling to me. granted, i've always hated fix fics- i'm totally fine with radical AUs and rewrites, but maybe it's just my personal gripes of "haha i FIXED canon it's better now >:)" like... i can appreciate a fix fic like "oh this character didn't die bc i think it's dumb" but then these are people who fundamentally don't understand what they're trying to "fix."
and like i know. antis are antis. antis always do this. but it's like... man. why can't people just say they don't like a thing bc it's not their cup of tea instead of wanting to "fix" it in a way that ruins it???
me because I have an unhealthy addiction to characters being evil
This is so me.
"proshippers like fucked up things but can't handle being told to die?"
well, yes! i don't fear fiction, i fear for my safety and wellbeing, and knowing people want me to die irl is unnerving! how does this not make sense to people? what, incest and age gaps are too far, but wishing death upon people is okay? liking fictional noncon is bad and insensitive, but telling people they deserved their trauma is better?
i didn't have "i'm broken" teenage asexual angst i had "i'm literally being the only reasonable one about this concept and the rest of you are behaving like fucking freaks" perception issues
โwhose fault is it? whoโs to blame when things escalate? which sibling is worse? who went too far and crossed the hard lines too many times and whoโs still kind of redeemable? was this justified or just evil? do they have morals? who should i feel bad for?โ damn, arenโt yโall tired?
iโve got a better question. how much pain do you need a person to be in for it to no longer be expected of them to act normal and rational and sane? chew on that instead.
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