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I try to explain that its racist and dehumanizing to do this to people but no, they like it too much. The history of western media demasculizing asian men, asian men working hard to stop that myth and the western women doing it but they think its okay. Nobody is your baby, go have a child if you want to infantilize someone that badly. They are grown people, its rude but particularly so if you are not korean or even asian.
i can tell half these fans watched the show like 2 times
aint no way the debate almost 20 years later is kataang or zutara? They were kids, uneducated, living on the run, traumatized children. Who were later placed in child marriages by the writers to appease adults who thought they looked kawaii together. This is sick.
Katara will forever trying to be her mother stuck in time, Zuko will forever be afraid of his shadow and reflection and Aang will always be that child with more pain than he can handle. I hate people who barely know these characters talking about ships and romances. They are so much more than that. The creators cant even delve into the characters because the fans catch a tantrum every time they do something adult or imperfect. Can't wait for the animated films to come out hope its ultra realistic and crushes everyones fantasies. These kids are warriors but people think they are cutie pies.
The show is spiritual above all else yet people only talk about this mess. Like tai chi is a real thing. Energy bending is a real thing. Katata does reiki heaking, Zuko's heat breath its a style of yoga, Aang being vegeterian and his love for animals that comes from universal oneness. Appa and momo are shown as concious beings.
So much to discuss, yet the focus is in a 2 dimensional understanding of relationships.
Guru patik was correct attachment especially to the false ideal of love via romance is stupid. The irony of Aang dying to save Katara is that honestly if given the choice over her father and brother or grandmother or Aangs life.. she wouldnt do the same for him. The love was misguided. Which is exactly the lesson of the story. But people think that choosing romance over your own soul is good. No it makes you a fool. Aang betrayed his own self and he died for it. Notice he only mastered the avatar state after he realized the others werent serious like he was cause in the end it was his life. And none of them would of fought the firelord for him. Even if they did they wouldnt of lasted five minutes. Zuko and katara could barely handle Azula. And then they only beat her because she had a whole breakdown. Only momo was with him until the end. This is why I hate fanservice it gives shippers to much to go off of.
If I saw this where I lived Starbucks green matcha brown sugar latte you'd be gone.
is he racist? No not in the traditional sense but he has had an idealized fetish for black aesthetic culture since a young age. But other peoples perception of what he does should not concern you. If people from black society interpret what he did as racist that is their right. Its a complex topic to be handled with care not a sassy response of oh sm made him do it. I will not just accept that foolish behavior. Let his behavior be interpreted by whoever is interpreting it. The tacky lawyer defense just makes black people feel more offended and angry. I just wish everyone would allow people to have their own opinion about art without getting over emotional. Especially if no one is being direspectful. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. Telling others to just leave and shut up is not a mature response.
me when I'm on someone's account for fandom news and they won't specify who or what they're talking about cause they too scared to say something controversial and loose their fake friends/moots/followers
wait this is what happened? this is so funny
why can't ppl laugh? man live a little they act like korea's war zone anything that happens must be taken so seriously. Like grow up how are ppl gonna react when they start letting these people actually be free and they are seen with models. Will people actually faint?
longpost---- open to find out the truth about asian idols in america
Is it because this ruins the illusion that some tense dating situation was going on. All these people knew and grew up together, behind the scenes they all talk and behave normally kpop idols only act antisocial for the cameras and the fans. The only awkwardness that exists is the kind they make up while they are company slaves. The minute they are free they are like regular people. This is why I always push the Kji is secretly dating an ig model or something because like in people's mind it's impossible but realistically he's gone to so many events and has met so many celebs that people forget he knows.
Sadly the realistic side of the korean entertainment host club industry is ain't nobody wants to see it, even if it's like common sense that's what most dudes are into, doesn't matter.
This is why its so annoying when people keep on with those same company made ships for so long. Like they clearly know other people even though they refuse to say it, they do. Like social media is where celebs play in public, they rarely address anyone if they don't know them in some type of way.
After going to the same events people in the same circle have followed him on instagram. Like it's so funny how people can't put two and two together but can tell you a bunch of scripted company nonsense some poor intern got paid 25 cents an hour to write.
Most personalities, friendships and personal info told by the company about an idol is FAKE. They sign contracts to play characters for the company, many even change their legal names. What they like, their taste, their innocence level it's all scripted. They are real people who have emotions and make emotional connections just like anybody else. Language is a small barrier for humans and it always has been. Just because their english isn't at a native level that does not mean they can't have english speaking friends.
Kji and so many others are apart of so many other circles other than kpop and their groups.
Like celebs have very small private circles once one person is invited in then they get to know everybody else. Fenty offered him a contract forever ago, contacts like that don't just go away. Do people think just cause you don't see him publicly @'ing people that he doesn't use his instagram for other reasons, like be serious people have no idea who he talks to, they just assume he lives in an isolated shy baby doll world and he doesn't.
Kai literally refused for years to start an instagram and staff forced him to do one for promotion and he immediately deleted it. Asap rocky asked him for his insta once, one time! and he was right on it.
Public account. He'd been had a private one tho. And then he talked about it publicly which he did not have to do, but he wanted to.
Jennie alone is bff's with like 5 people that are always with the kardashians and several rappers. They all get invited to events with celebs if they have brand deals s.m just rarely posts it, so it's like it doesn't happen. People also assume they can't speak english and just stand in the corner which in most cases is not true, every korean person learns english in school. If they went to school and graduated they understand at least basic level english.
She is also close friends with Dua Lipa and has been for years. And Dua had Kai rep her collab in 2022
It was an extremely private party and there's only a few photos, of course he didn't post any. That's just how s.m is they will fly someone to an event and there's no evidence of them being their unless the media and fans decide to promote it. They do the bare minimum which is usually nothing.
Back to Jennithea who is usually very busy with her socializing has so many Kdash connections it's insane. Along with various music connections, I would have to make a seperate post.
On top of going to their halloween party a few years ago, like they all know one another outside of just one and done events. Hollywood is very small. What people think super m was doing in hollywood for a week, staring at the wall? Kai was in LA even before that for personal reasons.
Arden Cho even went to one of Exo's last concerts in 2023, but did s.m put that in any social media posts or post a video publicly so it could get attention?
She's apparently a supporter, would probably love to do something to bridge the Korean and American Gap, but no they only wait until a big American label tells them to do something, they don't want to make proper connections or show off any ties to anything western if they can avoid it
Arden is an amazing actress, I can imagine what they could do if they showed more love and support to their Korean American Hollywood community publicly, all the fun things they could accomplish. It could really ease the gap between just feeling like they need to speak english and completely conform to America's standards. Imagine a reality show where they go visit Korea town and meet with community leaders. It's just sad, they are so focused with their fake artificial image they can't grow.
The literal only difference is some tell the truth and others hide is due to marketing, YG leverages appearances with celebs but S.M hides it because it does not fit their persona. When people leave S.m magically they stop caring about the stupid politics which doesn't help them anyway.
They all know other celebs, they talk, they go to parties, they hookup, they breakup etc etc etc. People are so ridiculous thinking the infantile baby thing is real, it's a complete act for most of them. Also most of the kdash clique know justin who's friendly with everybody.
Literally everybody
And Justin's bff knows kpop idols at least one,
and she knows Momo who knows
and wasn't Conan in Korea and literally went to the s.m building and got shown around by Key
Aw, look at Key trying to get Conan into an innocent halfu Japanese boy into a slave contract how sweet!!!
90 percent sure they just took his dna to make more nct clones....
anyway
Like these people be clicked up. It isn't like after the cameras are done rolling they all never see one another again. The padding squad is such a joke, people actually believe those are his only friends it's so sad. That's a company marketing tool to get people to watch their god awful variety and reality shows they made for all of them. Why else where they always on kbs saying omg we don't know anyone else, we only are friends with our group members, company staff and a few tiny bit of people and then we go back in our company boxes until it's time to film the next comeback, like get real.
I make stuff like this cause at first I thought nobody knew, but in reality nobody really wants to talk about it which leads to others who don't research on their own completely lost cause how can they piece old info with new info, plus all the fake stuff that's online.
In conclusion stop being closed minded and stop infantilizing asian people. Good day. In the future if I reference a kpop person and connect them to an american celeb it's much more possible than you think. That's why I was so confused why people talked about Jb like kji would hate him or something.
Like really, "listens to explicit young thug and bryson tiller songs on full blast in public Kim Jongin" would hate bizzle team lightskin for the win Justin Bieber? Are you sure?
They couldn't possibly know one another.....are you sure? Kji and Hailey have been at the same events countless times and had the same sponsorships. The worlds that could never connect before because oh no, kpop idols are too lowly, the worlds are connected. They are compete for and get the same opportunities now.
Hollywood is extremely small as I just showed, and it's not hard to get in touch with instagram. Plus half these people go to the same parties, so I'm really not getting how it's so impossible? Like I'm sorry if a grown man says a year before that he wants to get a meaningful tattoo but is too scared of the pain, then a year later gets temporary tattoo's and puts the same exact tattoo and similar tattoos as another dude he used to look up to, and it's in the same place and he shows it off with pride both onstage and shoves it in the camera after the concert on ig live.
This was after he did a super long live talking about his childhood, and how much he wanted to learn english and visit america.
The sad part is how this is available for people to find, yet instead people would rather pretend you're crazy for mentioning things people would rather not talk about.
Then a couple years later does the same title track on his album as the other dude on the same year months apart. And yes on knowing bro's he said he was very much aware of Justin's song. He even said what month it came out. Like if he is so whatever about him why keep up with the exact month? Then in the behind the scenes for the peaches music video they were playing Stay by Kid Laori and JB. Which was a collab they did later in that 2021.
There's so much there but people so small minded and ignorant. Like the bullying random celebs cause it's fun atm and everyone is dogpiling on them is so lame. Especially if its getting in the way of you making clear as day connections. People so blinded by hate they can't see anything else.
The reason it makes me so mad, isn't cause people don't just buy into some random idea that I had, I didn't want this to be true, it's just I happened to be curious and dig and find that they most likely are friends or in the same circle. Sad how bp fans are supportive of their favorite artists having friends in other non kpop circles but some just bully and laugh at the idea. It's very racist and isolationist and very sad. Imagine how they would feel separating themselves from everyone to keep fans happy. Sadly even more people keep feeding into this idea making it more popular. They are grown people, keeping them from enjoying life and meeting people is only going to make them resent and HATE their jobs, fans and company.
Jb actually is surprisingly very nice, and has lots of friends in and out of america, the only reason I can think why cl or others would be comfortable posting or talking about him but a male idol wouldn't is because of those stupid clauses where they have to always be perfect and around other perfect people. They turn down many collabs for that reason. Exo didn't go to Coachella literally for that reason. If they were caught looking at a model or another artist with heart eyes, their fans would go insane, but not really they would just catch temper tantrums online cause they aren't behaving like a doll.
Anyway I look forward for more of the veil dropping, this separation stuff is so dumb, no grown adults should have to hide knowing one another for fear of scolding. A major wakeup call is needed. They aren't cartoon characters they are flesh and blood. A fan or an artist is not God. They are people. They are equal. They can't tell you what to do and you can't tell them what to do either.
Like if they don't know one another then that's just plain weird I'm sorry.
he and suho either have never fought or they have fought dozens of times there's no in between, cause their interactions are just so odd. Like they clearly don't like one another, I won't argue over this they don't, yet they don't hate one another either, and during that podcast radio whatever he tried to pat kai on the shoulder and said they were close Kai literally almost tipped over trying to get away from him. Then later Suho said he was like a father to him or at least tried to be. And during the exo ladder 4 Kai and the others ragged on him continuously. Super weird. Kai doesn't take him seriously, but why? The others mostly stay silent when it comes to any issues or dislikes but they keep showing how little they respect suho. Sad, now he's hiking in california and has a Cosco membership. Perhaps he'll go to tmz and tell his side of the story. Hopefully he goes full jessica and writes 2 books and has a movie.
Some opinions about real person fiction.
Utterly different from fan writing based on fictional texts, fan writing with an actual image as the protagonist does not have a closed original text to draw on. A real person's fiction is a creation based on the public image presented by a celebrity. Fans construct an imagination about the star based on the stage/film and television performances, news, interviews and various gossip they have seen, and further contemplate their own stories. In a sense, the characters in real person fiction are not significantly related to real-life celebrities. Fans use the public image of stars and their own inferred interpretations to construct stories, which contain considerable selectivity and subjectivity. What fans are dealing with is not a natural person, but rather the "personality" performed by these celebrities and the imagination added and completed by fans themselves. Therefore, although readers who like real people will pay attention to various news about celebrities, they do not necessarily care about what they are like in their daily life and how their relationships are. In the final analysis, the content of the work is not accurate and often does not attempt to be true.
The characters in the real people will have similarities with actual celebrities, and such similarities may be many, making people feel that they are almost real, or there may be only a few, or even only names and some physical characteristics. While many tend to favour the legitimacy of real person fiction, they believe such works do not constitute harassment of real people. But it is undeniable that some pieces with controversial content will cause unnecessary trouble and public opinion pressure from society. For example, a blog called Kaisoo Underground on Tumblr is about the story of two EXO members who became gay. Although the protagonist has no such experience, people's speed and power of falsehood are likely to turn fictional into real in the Internet age.
There have been many years of debate about fandom practices' moral and legal issues. However, there are not many related academic discussions due to various moral constraints and ethical considerations. Generally speaking, the author's delineation of the moral boundaries in the works reflects the general impression of the idols or characters within the fan group rather than legal constraints. Real person fiction is also part of the cultural ecology of celebrities in modern society. To satisfy and maintain their fans, idols will also take the initiative to sacrifice part of their privacy, allowing fans to imagine and create accordingly. Throughout the ages, many fictional creations in the name of historical figures are essentially re-creations based on real-life image texts, such as Shakespeare's historical plays and so on.
So, if all fictional writing involving real people required the consent of real people, there would be a lot less good work and fun in literary history. It is undeniable that although many high-quality pieces of fan articles are famous in general, the overall threshold is relatively low. It has already become a popular culture that does not require academic literacy, and everyone can participate in the creation. We can't deny the value of its existence, but should there be a limit to its content and ideas when it is published on a public platform? This applies not only to real people but also to other fan works. Without effective restrictions, there is a potential for harm, both for producers and consumers.
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