Ahaha another one. He is right actually
August 1, 2018
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Steve would be the only one to render Tony speechless…
Ah... This is a painful topic. I felt it was a problem with a screenplay on a fundamental level. Not everything to do with RDJ’s brilliance (though that too. He is RDJ). It’s just that... All It was “Tony’s family“, “Tony’s youth”, “Tony’s grief“, “Tony’s girlfriend left him“, “Tony’s PTSD“ “Tony’s heart problems”. Yes they made sure we understood Tony’s motivation. I loved his arc in this. But what about Steve? He deserved to be on the same level of character study. But they couldn’t even give him half decent monologue about his worldview. In his own last film! (Yeah, and why would we need his family and childhood in this? It’s not like they had an influence on him as a person. We’ll better see Howard for the tenth time). And now next time we see Steve it will be in Avengers and there won’t be any time for him as a character. Sorry but I really don’t understand how Tony’s fans can be unhappy with his treatment in mcu when he basically had 6 films where he is the no.1 character and there is a “Homecoming“ on the way.
That was the problem with Civil War. It wasn't a Cap film. The emotional arc came from Tony and overshadowed Steve's arc. Which would have been fine for an Iron Man movie. But not a Cap movie.
I do think that Steve’s character had an emotional arc and would argue that he actually went through the most change by the end, giving up the Captain America mantle, but I agree that Tony’s role and RDJ’s wonderful acting allowed him to be far more obviously emotional, which naturally drew the viewer to what he was going through. I know a lot of people felt the same way as you, Anon. Definitely a lot of Cap fans feel that he didn’t quite get his due, and I would agree with that.
As I’ve said, I loved the movie and am glad we had it, but I would like a Cap movie where Captain America is the focus and we see him and his team fight actual Captain America bad guys. Of course, I know there is a whole overreaching MCU that CACW had to work into, but yes, I’d love another Cap movie. Well, and IM4. Basically, give it all to me! I know these movies do have to end someday, but I still feel like there are more stories to tell. Maybe Tony could actually defeat his own villain in IM4? Just throwing that crazy thought out there.
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the thing about fandom’s framing of steve as this rebel without a cause type of reckless idiot who is just incapable of following orders is that, like “angry chihuahua” pre-serum steve, i get where it comes from. it’s funny and meme-able, and, most importantly, it’s a way to distance steve from the boyscout image so many people associate him with, and that so many of his fans hate.
but, just as angry chihuaha steve, reckless idiot steve is also upsetting because it takes the most sincere, earnest, good things steve has done in the mcu and twists them to be not the actions of a noble hero, but the stupidity of a manchild who challenges everything and everyone for no reason. it bastardizes the very core of steve’s character, and, above all, equates making steve more cynic/less idealistic with making steve better and cooler.
and that sucks because, no, he’s not a boyscout, but, guys, the very core of steve’s character is cheesy. steve as a character represents an ideal, and he does so in the most sincere, earnest way possible. steve’s superpower is his heart and his bravery. he’s a hero because he’s a good person, not because he’s snarky, because he’s a genius, because he’s super powerful or because he was chosen by fate or a prophecy. he’s just… the ultimate Good Guy. it doesn’t get much cheesier than that, unless your name is Clark Kent.
and if that isn’t interesting to you, it’s cool. anti-heroes are the norm in the mcu and in most superhero movies for a reason: they’re fun to watch and very relatable. but, i’m sorry, steve is just not one of them. steve is that guy who walks old ladies to cross the street, not the guy who cracks a bunch of jokes while kicking a villain’s ass. and you’re free to find this boring and lame as much as you want to, but that’s IT. that’s the character. and i feel like a lot of people are not comfortable just letting steve be that way - they need to twist his actions to make him seem much more of a rebel badass than he actually is, and since i’m so attached to this stupidly sincere portrayal of sheer goodness and bravery, it becomes upsetting.
like… streve crashed the Valkyrie into the water not because he’s an Extra™, Dramatic Bitch or whatever, but because it was the only chance to land the plane without killing tons of innocent people. TFA is the ONLY origin movie in the mcu that doesn’t end with a triumph, but with a tragedy, and fandom somehow thinks it’s fun to turn steve’s sacrifice into a laughing stock, to act like he did so because he’s stupid or missed bucky’s dick too much or anything of the sort, instead of seeing the fact that steve did what he did because he valued other people’s lives above his own, because he valued doing the right thing over getting what he, personally, wanted.
and i guess to me it’s upsetting because this is something that resonates so deeply with my values and the person i want to be, and so to see fandom turning it into something small and petty just hurts, even if it’s just a joking shitpost. because when you act like steve is just some insolent dude who challenges everything and everyone just because he can, you end up turning his character from a hero to an idiot with poor impulse control. when you make headcanons of his friends being annoyed and bored by his constant idealism and desire to do the right thing, you turn him into a burden to sam or bucky or natasha or whoever, ignoring how he’s actually a leader and an inspiration to the people around him - you ignore how he broke through bucky’s brainwashing through sheer loyalty, how he made sam want to suit up for the first time in years, how he gave natasha trust when no one else would have.
basically, you take away the beautiful things about his character and turn into something that, yeah, might be funnier, but it’s just so cynical it’s almost depressing. it turns something that is genuinely idealistic and optimistic into a pessimistic, shallow thing, and that’s just not what steve rogers is meant to be.
“Two things only the greatest fools do: throw stones at hornets’ nests and threaten a Witcher.”
Happy (belated) Birthday, @spacebuck! 💜Here’s Steve as a witcher, come to fuck shit up.
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I don't understand. There are sports where people wear skintight suits all the time. Like skiing, for example. What's the problem? She looks fantastic in it.
“One must respect the game”, but when is French Open going to respect Serena?!
OMG Amazing. As a Russian protester I'm really really thankful
Amsterdam is turning rainbow for a visit of the Russian president Putin. The council of the city of Amsterdam has decided to hang out the gay pride flag on all council owned buildings and offices, in protest to Russia’s new anti-gay law.