OMG I STAND BEHIND EVERY SINGLE WORD. JOHNNY IS THE UNDESERVED MARTYR OF TIKTOK AND OTHER PLATFORMS EXPLOITING MINORS (AND NOT JUST THEM)
Unpopular opinions
1) there's no such thing as an "unproblematic musician" . The only reason why they are seen as unproblematic is because they are able to mask their wrongdoings better than other artists.
2) I do not buy Paul's story of spending everyday with Linda with the only time being separated was when Paul was imprisoned. That's bollocks mate.
3) You lot make John Lennon worse than he actually is. Compared to what other rockstars did, e.g. Brian Jones being a sexual sadist and loved beating women with objects whilst forcing them into sex, John is lowkey mild (fuck him for abandoning Julian tho)
4) I'm convinced the majority of you only like George Harrison for his looks. He is more than just his looks
5) Last unpopular opinion, all the Beatles were equally shit (personality wise). There was no worse Beatle. I could go on about this, especially about how a Beatle is singled out for a wrongdoing whilst another Beatle, who also did the same thing, is let off the hook (both John and Paul saying the n word, but only John is singled out for this like tf??)
do you think yoko loved john when he died? do you think when she says she misses him or says she gets choked up hearing his voice still sometimes that it is genuine or just what she has to say and do as his widow(tm) (not necessarily maliciously but she is very brand and image obsessed.) she seems very cold and stoic so i cannot tell if any emotion on him is genuine or something she forces out to fit that narrative. i guess i just get sad because you can really feel the love when olivia talks about george for example, but with yoko im always wondering if it's just her saying what she thinks people want to hear. he has been dead longer than he was even alive so im not saying she has to be grieving still or anything but i do hate that i feel like i cannot trust anything she says because she says everything so emotionlessly.
Hello anon.
I wasn't going to discuss this but couldn't pass the opportunity of addressing some issues that have been bothering me. People act like I go out of my way to start discourse but it's not my fault I get questions like this. Sure, I could ignore the message but I don't see any reason to hold back.
(I'm not going to put this under a cut, you scroll it down, your finger won't fall off, I promise.)
You've worded your point respectfully and I can tell you don't mean any harm but I need to touch on some of those bizarre stereotypes and misconceptions.
For starters, WHY do tumblrinas think it's not only ok but cool dismissing John and Yoko's marriage as Not Valid™ and questioning the extent of their love?
Oh wait, I know the answer. It's because acknowledging Yoko (or Stu or Brian) goes against their cosmic soulmate McLennon dreams.
Yoko was John's wife, mother of his child, creative partner and manager. One might love or hate her but she exists. Show some basic respect.
It's fine to discuss the JohnandYoko brand, their publicity stunts and manipulation of the media but what I often see is people using that as an excuse to further their shipping preferences.
To be honest, if they were as straightforward as your average boyband fan I wouldn't have much of a problem with it. I might even get amused. It's the self righteousness and "correcting the record" bullshit I can do without.
Contrary to popular belief, it's unlikely John and Yoko were total sociopaths pretending to be in love. I know it might come across as a shock but sometimes people just like each other! It's irrelevant whether they bonded for the "wrong" reasons or even if their dynamics was healthy. It's not up for the public to decide what is acceptable between two consenting people. It might seem toxic, insane or plain abusive to you but sometimes people get a kick out of being miserable together. That's nobody's business.
Maybe if they had circulated more footage of them and their blonde children in the tour bus their choices would've been taken more seriously, who knows.
Now straight to your question: did Yoko love John by the time he died? It's hard to say. Depending on who you ask you'll get very different perspectives. But it doesn't matter. Regardless of the motivations, there was a mutual agreement between this couple and it seemed to be working in their terms. It doesn't have to make sense to the rest of us.
In my opinion, she did love John. For all his serious flaws, he wasn't that hard to love. I doubt Yoko was enough of a Bond villain to be indifferent to a man who was cherished by millions for his humor, brilliance and sex appeal. Which is not to say there wasn't envy, resentment and possessiveness on her part. All of these things can coexist.
It's not out of line wondering whether Yoko's public grief has performative elements. It does. But keep in mind that after December 8, 1980 she wasn't speaking just as a wife or manager anymore but as the beneficiary of John's will. She had a product to sell. Of course she'd promote herself and say things people want to hear sometimes.
Which brings us to Paul McCartney. I wasn't going to drag him into this but since everybody assumes he was the reason John existed (and in total equality with his wife), I don't see why not. Why doesn't anybody ever question HIS intentions?
Do you really believe he's not aware of the cultural obsession with Lennon/McCartney and doesn't use it for his own purposes as well? He cherry picks stories and plays for the audience all the time. But it's considered almost sacrilegious suggesting this might be the case.
Now it's totally fine implying he was just as affected by tragedy as the woman who watched her husband getting shot four times right next to her, when they were returning home to have dinner with their kid.
What THE FUCK is wrong with you people?
Fans project a lot of strange things onto this woman. They'll excuse every thing John and Paul ever did because Dead Mothers™ but Yoko being stoic because she grew up in the middle of Japan's WWII's bombings and almost starved to death is not even considered. She didn't come from background where what we consider appropriate displays of affection were common. Yoko might've been a bad influence on John in many aspects but she was as messed up as him, not a Blofeld mastermind attracting a lamb to slaughter. He walked into the "trap" because he saw something he liked and could relate to.
I'm not above contradictions, I have made some of these mistakes myself. After more careful research over the years and reading some of the most ridiculous takes one could imagine, my opinion on the subject has evolved a lot. I still find most of her business decisions questionable and I'm just as annoyed by her occasional attention seeking behavior. But I always had respect for her as an artistic partner to John. I genuinely enjoy their work together and never hid my opinion that he made his most interesting music after she came into the scene.
Does that make me a JohnandYoko stan? No, because I'm not a fucking weirdo. I look up to people for inspiration but I don't live vicariously through their relationships. I don't need JohnandPaul or JohnandYoko or PaulandLinda to be the fairytale of the century in order to believe in love nor I want a celebrity couple to be my parents.
And before anyone accuses me of shaming people, I wanna say that all your crazy ideas are perfectly acceptable on a fan fiction level. Direct all this creativity to entertaining your fellow fans instead of annoying them with rancid takes. We're starved for content!
(yeah that also includes myself, i'm trying! When I finish my fics it will be all over for the rest of you.)
Johnny Old Web 🍓
Paul is a victim of chronic childhood trauma, whose personality was shaped by three destructive forces: the death of his mother (loss of love), his father's violence (loss of safety), and his unpredictable "care" (loss of trust). His psyche operates in survival mode: suppression of emotions, traumatic attachment to the abuser, and somatization of stress. He experiences an unresolvable internal conflict between the awareness of his father's toxicity and the childlike need for his love. Music is the only light in this darkness. His story is a classic example of a "broken child" in an adult's body, where the pain of the past continues to live in the present
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Can you recommended fanfics with Dom Paul please?
Okay, here are some of my own:
Understanding
Father’s Day (daddy-kink)
Control (drabble)
Who’s Your Daddy, Johnny Boy (daddy-kink)
Rough, Biting, Scratch (not the whole sex-scene, sorry)
Shy (not kinky, just top-Paul. It’s actually really sweet and fluffy, but it’s still top!Paul so…)
Over the Desk (again, not the whole sex-scene…)
Naked/Dressed (not very dom/sub, but still top!Paul)
Clothed Getting Off (not that dom/sub, but it’s close)
Here are some more that have Dom Paul, but it’s McHarrison:
Back Alley Wall
Sore Wrists
Also one Paul/Ringo fic:
Good Boy, Ringo
Here are some other McLennon fics with Dom Paul that aren’t mine:
James
Discipline
That’s all I know of. There aren’t that many Top!Paul fics, and even less with Dom Paul. At least you’ve got a couple now. If anyone else knows of one, let me know! <3
WHAT THE BEATLES JOHN GAVE US
beatles yaoi + mclennon songs
one of your girls - troye sivan
sometimes i need to be alone - ricky montgomery
paul - big thief
attempt - far caspian
copious - menomena
bittersuite - billie eilish
kaleidoscope - chappell roan
how long? - vampire weekend
i think ur a contra - vampire weekend
star - mitski
should've been me - mitski
happy - mitski
one more to see you - mitski
crack baby - mitski
3/3 - the japanese house
saw you in a dream - the japanese house
diamond dave - the bird and the bee
i know you - faye webster
how would you spend time with your fave characters if they were real ?
Can I answer John Lennon to this question?
If I had the chance to spend a day with John, if I didn't die of stalking in front of this great figure, and if I had the courage, I would thank him for everything, for everything he did, with the Beatles, with his personality, with his music. Thank you for all the lives he saved (including mine), for all the hope he gave to an entire generation, and that hope still lives on.
Thank you for all the music that lived during the Beatles and after.
I think we would spend the day walking while he hummed something, showing me the places he loved, and telling an anecdote about every little detail.
He would talk to me about Paul, even asking me if I wanted to go see him (so he could go see him at the same time).
He would play guitar in a corner of the park, his favorite.
I don't know why, but I imagine him taking me out for chocolate ice cream, or whatever it is; his favorite thing to do is eat the end of the ice cream cone.
I imagine him always smiling, always making a joke, and not taking things too seriously. Getting angry when people throw their cans on the ground while he flicks his cigarette butt onto the grass in the park.
He would say kind things to me, tender words, but he wouldn't be happy if I said negative things about myself. He would say that everyone is beautiful in their own way, and that those who don't agree with that should go to hell.
I imagine him as gentle but sometimes full of anger at the world. I imagine him doing simple things but always reasoning in complicated ways.
I don't know what he would have been like now if he had been lucky enough to still be here, but one thing is for sure, I miss him.
Sorry for taking so long on this post, I've been writing it in my head for weeks trying to figure out how to phrase everything. But umm I think Paul was in a bath tub when he was taking certain photos of John.
So the book itself is divided into sections based on location. There's a London section, a Paris section, then they go to New York and then on to Miami, etc. The London section is really interesting and the photos are very revealing IMO. I definitely recommend getting your hands on a physical copy, your local library may have it. This is something you should experience physically because uh. There's a lot of John in here. To me at least it's very obvious how deeply in love Paul was with John.
So imagine for a minute that you're Paul McCartney, and you're in London, England with your best mate.
The way that journalists are treating this set of photos makes me feel a little insane because so many of them are saying "this is John and Paul backstage!" Y'all, this is not John and Paul backstage. This is John and Paul in their hotel room. Alone.
First off let's look at this:
Here's John shaving the stubble off his face. Sunglasses still on; John had prescription sunglasses so if he's wearing these then his contacts are not in. Look at the background of this photo:
John's in the way here but that is a set of curtains in a hotel room! You can tell from the horizontal bar on top, those are to hold the black out curtains. And another thing: I think these are John and Paul's suitcases sitting on top of a wardrobe. Not entirely sure about that though since the image is so grainy.
At this point John has taken off his sunglasses, he's brushing his teeth and has washed his face. Again, look at the background:
This is a medicine cabinet, a storage feature in bathrooms to keep toiletries safe from the humidity caused by a bath and/or shower. I don't know how common these are anymore:
What I find interesting about this sequence of photos is that John first pulls a funny face for Paul:
But then something grabs his attention:
Spits out the toothpaste:
And then off John nyooms...making soft eyes at Paul no less.
Pay close attention to the background on this photo! We're seeing the hotel window from another angle, the horizontal strip at the top is the tell:
I outlined the horizontal strip on the curtain and then drew lines on the dips in the fabric so you can compare it to the OG photo:
Paul is utilizing an interesting run-and-gun style of camera shooting here, he's got John tilted and at an angle that puts John over Paul. Unconsciously signaling something? Let's move on...
According to this strip...
...this is the next photo in the sequence:
Again calling attention to more interesting details here:
John's tie is missing and his shirt is undone. And that looks like a towel in his hands. He's turning in for the night.
2. John is standing in front of a reinforced door which are common in hotels but are not common in dressing rooms:
3. This photo is itself a reflection of John's face that Paul has taken in a mirror, maybe a vanity mirror. Someone in the McLen discord server said it was too small to be a vanity mirror and I'm inclined to agree, so maybe it's a compact or hand mirror propped up on the sink.
So what does this mean? I think that John and Paul were getting ready for bed, someone knocked on the door, and John went to answer it. You'd think Paul would but for some reason he didn't. Oh and another thing...check out the four jackets in the mirror:
They're definitely hanging from something so John and Paul were looking out for the suits that night.
Next in the sequence, John is back at the sink washing up. Check out the hotel window curtain being reflected in the mirror there!
Then something kind of odd happens...John is seen coming back and re-entering the shot again? Through out Eye of the Storm Paul emphasizes a lot of duality with John, including a shot where John reflects on his own sculpted face. Paul was very interested in John doing performing the act of reflection on his own face:
But here's the really interesting bit and what makes me think Paul was naked in a bathtub when he took these last two photos:
Y'all, that's the fluffy fringe of a towel! You can tell that the threads are hanging down from it! These are very different from the clean lines of the curtain or the medicine cabinet or even the lines of their suit jackets! Paul was sitting in or on the edge of the bath tub when he took these photos of John! He wrapped a towel around his camera to protect it from getting wet! Cameras are generally made for right handed people so when Paul had his finger on the button on the right hand side. That means Paul keeping his finger on that button pushed the edge of the protective towel over the lens!
So I submit to you Paul McCartney's Eye of the Storm, where he submitted a film strip where he was staying in a hotel room with John and was most likely nude and bathing when he took John's photographs! Someone knocked on the door to get their attention while Paul was naked so John answered the door for them, while Paul followed him a little. John was enjoying having Paul right there for him too:
PLEASE get Eye of the Storm, it's such a great book and there's so much in it. Paul lets the pictures speak for themselves and wow they have one hell of a story to tell!
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This is 10000% canon I did not make it up.
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