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so yeah, upon further consideration, my Type of favorite character is 100% “person with a horribly misplaced sense of duty that ruins their life and ultimately kills them”

if i had a nickel for every time i encountered some version of the following observation in the mdzs fandom:

"i'll never understand why fans of jin guangyao and jiang cheng and xue yang keep insisting on defending these characters' virtues. you can just admit that your favourite characters are assholes and terrible people. it's fine. why are you defending them."

i could probably buy myself a packet of some really sick edibles the next time i hit up the dispensary. but more to the point, what truly frustrates me about this observation (aside from the implicit arrogance that seems smugly baked into it every time i stumble upon it) is how completely it misunderstands what villain and antagonist fans are doing when we discuss the positive attributes of our favourite characters. it's the assumption that what we're doing must always be about defence, about arguments, about insisting that the characters we like are Good, Actually, And Here's Why--when in reality i have never, ever, ever encountered a fan of any of these characters who has been interested in definitively declaring that any of them are good or bad people. like that just straight up hasn't been part of the conversations we've been having with each other.

like, what you are interpreting as us "defending a character's virtues" is very often just us literally stating how the characters' actions have had a positive impact on other characters' lives, or the world more broadly. or we are just trying to compare acts of cruelty/violence committed by one of these characters vs the acts of cruelty/violence committed by the protagonist and his inner circle, to draw inferences about one or both characters, to better understand them and the story and how they illustrate various themes, whether mxtx meant for them to appear in the text or not. it's just... analysis. and yes, a core competency when it comes to literary analysis means being able to critically defend your arguments using examples from the source material.

jokes about the jgy or jc stans and "defence squads" aside, it's not about defending individual characters, because the characters don't need a defence, because they're not real. but the work we've all collectively put into examining these characters, and contextualizing their actions within their circumstances within the source material, is certainly real, and it makes sense that we'd want to step up and defend our work when people who disagree with us choose to misrepresent our arguments.

MDZS Character height chart

This was the author’s footnote in chapter 115, unit in cm.

Nie Mingjue 191

Song Zichen 190

Lan Xichen 188

Lan Wangji 188

Wei Wuxian 186

Jin Zixuan 185

Jiang Wanyin 185

Xiao Xingchen 185

Wen Qionglin 183

Xue Yang 180

Mo Xuanyu 180

Nie Huaisang 172

Jin Guangyao 170 (without his hat but it’s doubtful whether the interior is heightened)

well personally i like it when there’s incest and necrophilia and murder and cannibalism and abuse and torture and gore and mutilation and body horror and sexual depravity and death.

Red/blue vs purple/yellow parallels my beloved

just to clarify my position for the court. i will not be taking questions at this time, thank you!

[image is two illustrated portraits. the first is jiang cheng in a purple circle, with the text “JIANG CHENG DID NOTHING WRONG”; the second is jin guangyao in a yellow circle, labeled “JIN GUANGYAO DID NOTHING WRONG”.]

Literally, the only people that find complaining about that stage performance and actor's are untamed ride or die fans

Its like I'm falling in love with Wei Wuxian's character again... I don't know anything about his stage actor but he seem slaying it. I like how playful and confident he is in the photoshoot. He reminds me of Audio Drama Wei Wuxian. People who hate on him are probably The Untamed only fans and never MDZS fans.

i’ll do everything for him

I saw this and I can't stop laughing.

Sect leader Yao: *firmly believes that WWX is the devil incarnate who is raising an army in secret, and Wen Ning is a murder machine controlled by the murder maniac that is WWX. The number of people Sect leader Yao believes that WWX has killed includes Sect Leader Yao himself.*

Sect leader Yao: *thinks that the Guanyin statue has JGY's own face and immediately concludes that this is because he's a narcisstst proclaiming that he's a god who should be worshipped*

(Immediately followed by WWX thinking that there's no use saying that it's his mother's face 'cause anything JGY has ever done will now be twisted to something evil and added to the pile of his sins.)

Sect leader Yao: *says that JGY has killed Jin Rusong immediately after the tea about JGY's shady shits is spilled*

Everyone: *gasps in JGY anti* THAT MONSTER KILLED HIS INNOCENT BABY ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE THAT IS SECT LEADER YAO! BURN THE BITCH!