Ted And Karen Have Affected Mike And Nancy’s View Of Love But Not In The Way Most People Think

Ted and Karen have affected Mike and Nancy’s view of love but not in the way most people think

Recently there has been a argument in the fandom about why Mike can’t say he loves El. With some saying he’s gay or he doesn’t love El that way or he doesn’t know how to say it.

I am a believer that Mike is gay and doesn’t love El in a romantic way, but I also believe that a argument made by Melvin fans is also true and that is Ted and Karen’s relationship affecting their children’s view of love.

Most of them argue that The Wheeler parents are why Mike cant say he loves El because they never shown love to each other. I do think they are right on the part about Ted and Karen’s relationship affecting their children, but I disagree how it has affected them.

It is true that Ted and Karen are in a loveless marriage, and that has been shown to actually affect Mike and Nancy. Nancy has been aware of this fact and she even repeats their mistake, Mike’s is more subtext but it with him dressing exactly like his parents in S3. (Karen’s yellow striped shirt and Ted’s teal shirt or whatever color it is).

This has shown that Mike and Nancy have been affected by their parents’ loveless marriage but it’s not because they can’t say it or show it, it’s because they are repeating their parents’ relationship. Thinking they are in love with someone, but in reality, they aren’t.

Nancy is aware of the fact that her parents don’t love each other. She has a scene where she talks to Johnathan about it but there’s an irony to it, because she is in a relationship where she doesn’t actually love Steve. Which is why she can’t say she loves him, because she doesn’t. The way that Ted and Karen had met and got married are kind of exactly like how Nancy is with Steve.

Nancy: My parents never loved each other.

Johnathan: They must’ve married for some reason

Nancy: My mom was young, my dad was older. But he had a cushy job, money, came from a good family, and started their nuclear family

Really shows how Ted and Karen only got together because of circumstance and not actual love. Because of expectations. Which is where Mike’s relationship with El comes into play.

Throughout season 1, Mike’s friends keep on telling him he totally is in love with El. Basically expecting him to love her, when he doesn’t. Mike may seem to not notice or really care about his parents relationship, but like Nancy, it has him unaware of doing the same thing. He doesn’t love El, at least not romantically. Which can explain why he can’t say he loves her, he thinks or thought this is what love is, but it’s not.

Stancy literally broke up because Nancy didn’t love Steve and could never say it to him. Which is literally what Mike and El are going through right now.

Mike and Nancy are repeating their parents relationships, it’s not that they can’t express love, it’s that they mistook their love for something that wasn’t and learned to fall in love with someone else. This season’s message is about going against conformity, which is literally Ted and Karen’s relationship, and to break through it. That is how Ted and Karen have affected Mike and Nancy.

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I’m sobbing

the byers are used to having to let go of the things and the ones they love.

joyce lost will, her son, her boy. he disappeared and nobody paid attention to her consistent desperation to get him back and if they did, they only did because they thought she was crazy. talking to the lights, putting a hole through her wall with an axe, not believing he's dead despite seeing "his body". everybody wanted her to let go of him already, accept that he's gone for good.

then she lost bob, her light after darkness. she saw him die, a brutal, horrifying death where she could do nothing but stand, watch and break. after finally witnessing and feeling what it's like to live in the sweet comfort of predictability and stability, she had to let him go.

and it doesn't stop there because then she lost hopper, the only person who truly understands her and has been there with and for her since the beginning. she didn't only have to let him go but she had to live with the guilt and the pain that she pulled the lever that killed him.

jonathan lost his childhood, nobody ever acknowledges it but he did. he was abused by his father, forced to kill animals and become somebody he's not. he had to work to help his family at 15, plan a funeral for his brother at 16 all while keeping everything held down for his mother, taking care of her, protecting her and while getting heavily bullied for being different.

joyce lost her son but jonathan also lost his brother and had to live with the guilt that if he didn't pick that extra shift, he could've saved will. he had to let go of one of the only two people he cared about and nobody bothered to ever ask him how he was doing.

and now jonathan is letting go of nancy because he loves her too much to get in the way of her future. he knows she has big dreams, knows she doesn't want to turn out like her parents, knows she doesn't want to get married and live a stereotypical life so he's letting her go because he knows she can't have the life she truly wants and deserves if she stays with him and he loves her too much to hold her back even at the cost of his own heart breaking.

will.. where does one even start with will?

will had to let go of everything. his childhood was half gone being kidnapped and possessed by a dark shadow from an alternate dimension and half gone being bullied for who he is by his classmates and his father.

he had to let go of his hobbies because his friends outgrew them. he was forced to grow up when he still wasn't ready yet. he had to run to get to where everyone else walked to.

then he had to let go of his love for his best friend, his best friend who is in love with his step sister. his best friend who said the day he went missing was the best day of his life. his best friend who he adored like no other. his best friend who he'd risk his life for but he had to let him go because at the end of the day, he's just like his brother. he's letting go of the one he loves because he doesn't think he's enough for him. never enough to be what he truly wants. so he has no other choice but to let him go the way he had to with everything else he's ever loved.

idk what this is and it's probably shitty but i've been thinking about it for the past few days and it's been breaking my heart & making me sad so i'm gonna force you to be sad with me. sorry and you're welcome.

+i didn't proofread any of what i wrote so if there's any mistakes.. be a good person and ignore them. thanks! :)


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2 years ago

I kinda want this to be the outcome instead. I wanna see S2 Mike back man

I'm not worried about the video. I don't sense tension as much as apprehension. Mike is nervous and not sure what Will is saying yet, and Will is making himself small - his posture implies shame or fear, but not in a big way. I think this is probably not a coming out scene, but something like a "I've been sensing the mind flayer" or "why didn't you tell us you were having Vecna headaches" scene. Reminds me of the start of the crazy together scene. More worry than tension

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Regardless of what Will is saying, it looks like we're getting season 2 Mike back.


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2 years ago

HOLY SHIT I JUST FOUND OUT SOMETHING IDK IF ANYONE HAS POINTED THIS OUT

At the end of season 1, Will rolls a 14 and defeats a thysallhydra. Now, if Will’s painting foreshadows the boss of S5, that being the dragon is a Thysallhydra, then Will is going to be the one to stop it. He is going to have his big moment. Also he rolled a 14, the byler number is 7.

7 + 7 = 14

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Michelle and Willow braiding eachothers hair at sleepovers (even if Willow doesn't have as much hair to braid with lol).

They both make friendship bracelets that they NEVER take off (apart from when Michelle starts dating a male version of El....).

Both of them being more physically affectionate (holding hands, kissing cheeks etc), as it's more socially acceptable for girls, and blushing extremely hard whenever they do so.

S3 Michelle thinking that she has to wear makeup to grow up but instead of finding what she likes, she just copies her mother and doesn't like the style, but thinks she needs to wear it. Willow doesn't like makeup but ends up feeling insecure because she doesn't wear it.

S3 Michelle pretending to be dumb for male attention because she feels that's more important whereas Willow keeps putting her hand up in class and ends up being called "bossy" and "stuck up".

Michelle and Willow going to play out in the woods and getting their clothes dirty. Michelle wears a dress and Willow prefers shorts. Both are told it's not "ladylike".

Both of them sharing hair ties/hair clips etc and always having extras on them for the other.

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