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Helaena and Jaehaera Aesthetic

Just saw someone call Alicent a “pick me” that still didn’t get picked.

I’m sorry this is a medieval fantasy show. She lives in a a misogynistic society. She didn’t want to be “picked”, she was just living the life that society expected of her.

Does she still have misogynistic views? Yes, but that’s because of the world that she lives in. She’s certainly not the only one with misogynistic views, but I guess it’s just easy to attack a woman instead of the system that she lives in.

As a young girl, she was forced to marry a much older man and was then raped by him (yes marital rape is still rape) and was laughed at by him, even though she did what was expected of her - having sons.

She did what she was expected of her.

Otto telling her that Rhaenyra will kill her children, is not an unreasonable assumption to make. Rhaenyra is a woman in a misogynistic society and now she has half brothers. She (Rhae) might not want to kill her brothers but she might have to + someone else from her side might take it upon themselves to kill them.

Alicent also felt betrayed by Rhaenyra and then Rhaenyra has bastard children. It’s not unreasonable to assume that Rhaenyra (or anyone supporting her claim) would get rid of any opposition to ensure her ascent to the throne and her child (Jace). Again, Rhaenyra might not want to do it, but she might have to.

Alicent wanting to protect her children is not an unreasonable thing, in the same way that Rhaenyra wanting to protect hers isn’t unreasonable either.

Alicent is not a “pick me that still didn’t get picked”, she’s a woman who lives in a highly misogynistic society that did what she thought was best for her and her children.

She never cared about being “picked”, she lived her life the way that society expected her to because she saw no other way. And she’s certainly not the first or last woman to do so.

One thing that I don’t really understand is when Alicent/Rhaenyra stans act like the other is entirely responsible for the Dance.

Okay, both definitely led towards it, but neither is entirely responsible. There were so many different elements that led towards it, and if people wish to discuss how Rhaenyra or Alicent played a part in it, that’s fine, but let’s not act like one of them is entirely to blame.

Cersei Lannister Aesthetic

As irresponsible as it was of Rhaenyra having obvious bastards in a place where bastards were not accepted and trying to pass them off as true born, Harwin was also to blame.

Like seriously? You are having an affair with the heir and you see that the first child you have together looks like you instead of her, and don’t do anything about it?

I agree that Rhaenyra put her children in a dangerous position, BUT SO DID HARWIN.

In Rhaenyra’s defence she was raised with the idea that Targaryen’s are just different, not all of the rules apply to them, like the Doctrine Of Exceptionalism. Also, Rhaenyra was named heir, a very powerful position.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she thought that the rules didn’t apply to her.

But what’s Harwin’s defence?

Honestly, I didn’t really like Harwin’s character and I still don’t. And this is partly why.

I don’t know how much of this is to blamed for the show just rushing through the first season and how much of this is just Harwin being Harwin.

But I kind of think this is just Harwin being Harwin, mainly because of that scene where Criston provokes him and Harwin attacks him. Like yeah Criston provokes him, but he shouldn’t react. Like you and Rhaenyra placed your children in such a position where people know that they’re bastards and you didn’t do this once, you did this three times. The least you could do is ignore people provoking you.

*Young Rhaenicent*

Alicent: Hey, are you okay?

Rhaenyra: Yeah, why?

Alicent: It’s just that when we were flying on Syrax you didn’t point and say “cows” when you saw them

Modern Elain Archeron Aesthetic

Antler Tamlin will always been canon to me

Alicent: Aemond could you read Jaehaera a bedtime story? I need to help Helaena with Maelor.

Aemond: Sure, I can do that.

*some time later*

Alicent: *walks into Jaehaera’s bedroom* Awwww, she looks so cute when she’s sl- Aemond… What book are you holding?

Aemond: It’s my favourite, „The Art Of War” by Sun Tzu. I think Jaehaera like it’s too now.

Honestly though imagine being one of the High Lords and having to deal with Rhysand.

No accountability. No genuine sorry. Infuriating to listen to.

But you don’t have just him. You also have the IC. Like those people are not diplomatic at all and just do whatever they want.

Rhysand said smoothly, “I’m not entirely sure Velaris is prepared for Nesta Archeron.”

“My sisters not some feral animal,” I snapped.

ACOWAR, page 171

I wish the ACOTAR series focused more on the sisters and had them defend each other, like here.

Instead in silver flame, Nesta is forced to be in a house that she can’t leave with a man that she doesn’t want to be around.

Everyday I hope SJM proves me wrong and reveals that the IC are bad people and that their bad actions were done on purpose.

It won’t erase the other criticisms that I have of ACOTAR, but it will erase one of my main ones.

The way Tamlin antis apply every negative thing they can to him is honestly laughable now. They don’t read the text, they just say „remember when Tamlin did *insert thing that he never did or would do*?” and everyone just claps along and repeats it over and over. And when they called out by someone who’s actually read the books, they get angry and resort to verbal abuse or if they’re feeling it, wishing death or other physical abuse (for those that haven’t seen it, I’ve seen it all and yes they do in fact wish terrible physical things against people).

I once saw someone say that ACOTAR stans apply terrible things that their ex boyfriend did to them onto Tamlin, and when I saw that post, it all clicked. Instead of seeing Feyre and Tamlin as characters, the stans saw themselves as Feyre and their ex as Tamlin. So when they say something like „remember when Tamlin fat shamed Feyre into not eating after UTM and that’s why she was starving?”, that’s not something that Tamlin did, that’s their ex. Because Tamlin didn’t do that, did he? And as horrible as going through that must have been as ED’s are no joke, we can’t say that a character did something just because your ex did it to you. (I remember that this was a huge thing that they kept saying like 3 years ago and I still see it occasionally).

However, this doesn’t apply to every ACOTAR stan. I think the rest of them just really are just too into Rhysand. I mean if Tamlin was that bad, then surely they wouldn’t have to make up things about him to prove how bad he is, wouldn’t they? But no, they have to raise up Rhysand, by making up things about Tamlin.

I couldn’t resist and had to also make an edit to this song

All of the pictures are from Pinterest

I have a feeling you got everything you wanted

Feyre becoming High Lady of the NC

And you’re not wasting time stuck here like me

Tamlin being alone in the destroyed Spring Court

You’re just thinking it’s a small thing that happened

Her turning everyone against him by manipulation, destroying his court and thousands of his people dying and she refuses to take any accountability

The world ended when it happened to me

On my hands and knees begging Tamlin/Nesta haters to just PLEASE read the books and not make up random stuff

I still think Coach Scott is alive!!!!

(Please let me drown in my delusion)

Most team black stans were never going to like Alicent. I mean they didn’t even like her when she was a teen, so having her betray Aegon for Rhaenyra was never going to change their opinion.

Now, I said that team black stans were never going to like Alicent, which is true, but that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have understood her, but now? Now she’s a mother who put her son onto the throne, goes back to her ex friend from like 20 years ago, and sentences most of the people that care for her (Aegon, Aemond, Criston) to death.

The appeal of season 1 Alicent was her devotion to her children and taking away that ruins her. It makes her decisions in season 2 selfish.

Aegon didn’t want to be on the throne, but Alicent forced him to be king. She then insulted him when he was king instead of trying to guide him. Alicent in season 1 was on the small council and was basically ruling the 7 kingdoms. Remember “but it’s not a king who sits the Iron Throne these days good sister, it’s a queen”?

Aegon is close with his mother. “I want my mother” in season 1, despite her slapping him the previous day. “Mummy” in season 2. „What would you have me do?” In season 2, clearly valuing his mother’s opinion, and before this he was ranting about how nobody cares about what he has to say.

It’s clear that HOTD is pushing for Alicent to be closest with Helaena (don’t even get me started on how wasted of a character Helaena is). And I think it comes of as so unnatural because of how ignored Helaena is. Helaena barely gets any screen time and a large amount of it is with Alicent.

Her relationship with Aemond is… odd. I loved their relationship in season 1. In season 2 it feels like HOTD wants to villainise Aemond as much as possible and it comes off as ridiculous at certain points.

We don’t even see Alicent find out about Luke’s death. It could have been such a great scene. Anger because she knows what’s to come, but also maybe some happiness as she wanted Luke to be punished. After Driftmark Alicent does regret her outburst, but are you telling me that over the years she never wanted some kind of revenge? Not even passing thoughts. She could obviously feel guilty for it but these thoughts would still be there. After all, Aemond was her baby, who was harmed and had no justice, not even a “sorry”.

The point that I’m trying to make is that removing Alicent’s desire to protect her children and do anything to protect them (*cough cough* anyone remember “one day you will be our king” and Otto’s “Rhaenyra will kill your children”?) and making her character revolve around Rhaenyra, pushes away team greens, Alicent lovers and even TB’s who enjoy her character but don’t necessarily like her as a person.

So are Aemond and Criston going to be the only ones actually fighting for the greens in season 3?

Someone please get the book greens out of HBO’s basement

Can’t wait to see book Alicent in season 3! 😍

(Please let me be delusional)

I like to joke about how the ACOTAR stans don’t read the books but then I see the posts that they make and then I’m convinced that they genuinely do not read the books.

Saw a post that said „Feyre died for a man that did nothing to save her”, talking about Tamlin.

He sent her away to the human world and she came back without his knowledge as he was UTM. She made a deal with Amarantha. He can’t break the deal. And he couldn’t show that he cares for Feyre, which is stated by both Feyre and Rhysand.

Like I’m sorry but this isn’t some unknown knowledge, it’s in the book.

„If they want a villain for a queen,

I'm gonna be one like they've never seen”