A Key Word Here. I'm Sure You Guys Saw How They Want To Tell Us That Rhaenyra Is A Queen. Like Referring

A Key Word Here. I'm Sure You Guys Saw How They Want To Tell Us That Rhaenyra Is A Queen. Like Referring

A key word here. I'm sure you guys saw how they want to tell us that Rhaenyra is a queen. Like referring to her as Rhaenyra I Targaryen or the last episode name, the queen who ever was. And we have GRRM himself, the author of the book don't even referring to her as queen. He only refers to Helaena and Alicent as queen and Aegon as king. And he himself point out that Helaena is gentle and loved while Rhaenyra is not.

Aegon II literally issued an edict that Rhaenyra was a usurper and only a princess, only Helaena and Alicent are queens. Aegon III took over as Aegon II's heir, not Rhaenyra's heir. Neither he nor Viserys II purged that edict of their uncle. Nor did any other King. In fact, they adopted strictly agnatic succession laws. What more do they need to accept that even Rhaenyra's own sons, grandsons, great grandsons do not see her as the Queen.

In the excellent words of Stannis the Mannis,

“traitors have always paid with their lives . . . even Rhaenyra Targaryen. She was daughter to one king and mother to two more, yet she died a traitor’s death for trying to usurp her brother’s crown. It is law. Law, Davos. Not cruelty.”

Rhaenyra was never remembered as queen. Also not a single Targ kid was named after her because she was a traitor, pretender and usurper.

I'm not surprise the post is not there anymore. Because it's literally change the plot of this stupid show.

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10 months ago

“helaena does not ride, she has no taste for it”

incorrect, wrong

she was riding dreamfyre since age eleven and only stopped due to her depression and grief. dreamfyre awoke, broke her chains, and roared so loudly that the entire dragonpit shook when she sensed that helaena jumped to her death. they LOVED each other﹠ this show is insane for ignoring their bond.

10 months ago

GIVE HER BACK!!! GIVE HER BACKK!!

GIVE HER BACK!!! GIVE HER BACKK!!

GIVE THEM BACKK! GIVE THEM BACKK!!!

GIVE HER BACK!!! GIVE HER BACKK!!

They butchered them. They butchered them really bad.

9 months ago

Do you know where "the book is team green propaganda" came from? I often see this in the fandom in discussions

The showrunners themselves said this 🫠

Ryan Condal specifically called at least Blood and Cheese and the Aegon/Sunfyre bond propaganda, as in, he believes that women lie about their trauma and Alicent somehow got to the historians through all of this and lied about what she and her family went through (and apparently made up a grandson 🥴) with the specific purpose of slandering her ex bestie of three years/enemy of decades, despite the fact she apparently would kill her sons to reconcile with her... and he says the stuff about Sunfyre being beautiful and Aegon choosing his golden banner based on their strong bond was "Westerosi historical propaganda."

Basically it's their justification/shutdown of critics for what they view as their own superior writing changes to the story. These writers are high on their own fumes and their ego is so inflated that they think they can write ASOIAF better than GRRM himself (despite the fact that Sara Hess admitted she never even watched Game of Thrones and took no consideration of the universe when creating her own narratives in this show).

This also stems from this "maester conspiracy" where people believe a select group of people high up in society are secretly controlling things from the shadows and calling the shots... and like all similar conspiracy theories, this is actually deeply rooted in antisemitism.

It's very unlikely that a large number of people, even maesters, could collaborate in secret and all agree on set things in order to completely rewrite history... and there's the fact that the historical textbook Fire and Blood was written by GRRM as the in-universe definitive source on the real history, using a variety of sources including historians, eyewitnesses, survivors, and royal household staff, in which there are people sympathetic toward both sides of the Dance.

Despite all of this, writers and fans are convinced that somehow all the sources that paint TB in a bad light are fictitious propaganda while at the same time accounts that paint TG in a bad light are taken at face value, and vice versa: parts of the story that recount TG as doing something for realistic reasons, being Targaryen dragonriders with bonded dragons, or even being a loyal united front as a family are apparently lies and stolen from TB in order to make TG look better, so the show "corrects" this by giving it all to TB.

Really wild that anyone can think the author of a series known for his anti war, all characters and sides are morally gray, and each character is conflicted in their heart about love and duty stories apparently purposefully wrote a story where war is justified due to actual prophetic divine right... some characters are completely good and others are completely evil... and their motivation really changes whenever the plot or writers need it... and he did all of it by purposefully crafting a story based on lies for no reason.

And well, we already know that GRRM has some opinions about how stuff like this has failed the story.

7 months ago

Every time someone says something about Alicent not doing anything about Aegon being a “rapist” it really pisses me off 💯

Like no shit Sherlock of course Alicent isn’t going to do anything to punish her son for a crime that was only wrote to make you gullible fools hate team green. Of course the writers wouldn’t have written in Alicent punishing Aegon, THEY DONT WANT YOU TO LIKE THE GREENS!!!!!!

And while I’m here I might as well say it, I hate when y’all get more mad at the characters for their actions and not THE WRITERS. You know the ones who keep treating us like we’re stupid & playing with our intelligence….

THEY MADE Alicent betray her family for Rhaenyra. WHY? Because they only want to center this story around Rhaenyra. Why? To make up for what happened with Daenerys & in doing that they’ve completely fucked up the story & the characters.

THEY MADE Rhaenyra seek peace & not war after her sons death. WHY? So they can keep pushing this “Rhaenyra is good” agenda, which makes her SO DAMN BORING 😩

THEY MADE Daemon an abusive wife killer. WHY? Because they want us to dislike him as much as they do. They want us to dislike Daemon, but not more than Aegon & Aemond, which is dumb cause those boys are just 2 different parts of Daemon 💀

THEY MADE Alicent, Helaena, Rhaenys, and Rhaenyra weak. WHY? Because they think that’s what real women are, peaceful and soft.

THEY WATERED the story down. WHY? Because they don’t think we have the ability to sort out complex problems (which in some of y’all’s cases they were right 💯🤷‍♀️)

THEY MADE team green incompetent and all over the place, why? Because they don’t care about telling the proper story, they want to tell their own story with half of the work.

THEY MADE Aegon a rapist. So y’all would hate team green & mission accomplished.

THEY played y’all like fiddles and it saddens my heart to know that y’all are willing to take less than what you, we deserve.


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1 year ago

Okay , I get that a lot of people are mad at Aemond for what he said about Alicent, and on the other hand, a lot of people are acting as if Alicent raised a monster in Aemond, and that Aemond’s mindset toward Alicent is rooted in misogyny, because apparently people have convinced themselves that he sees women as ‘less than human’ and his mother is also impacted by that.

So no, that’s not the case. Aemond calling Alicent a fool for her empathy toward Rhaenyra is due to the fact that, the Blacks would never have this type of love, empathy or hesitation toward the Greens, and from childhood he has been tormented by Viserys and the Blacks. I was close to saying that Alicent planted this idea in his mind that the Blacks were his enemies since childhood, so of course, her going back on what she had taught him is angering to him. 

The reality however is, Alicent didn’t do that. She didn’t really have to. Aemond lived a life growing up where he knew he was second to Rhaenyra and her children in every way, and where he knew his father did not have the same love and empathy for them as he did Rhaenyra and the strong kids. They bullied Aemond, took out his eye, and his father did nothing but threatened to have he and his mother (and brothers) punished/tortured for speaking up. 

This war is about the throne as much as it is about getting back at, in Aemond’s mind, his abusers, his tormentors, the people who hurt him. He NEVER had the power to do that growing up, he knew early on that Rhaenyra and her family were granted a sort of protection that he wasn’t, that his mother wasn’t. He had to watch his mother, who was a victim of abuse and grooming, navigate in a world where all they had was each other.

He doesn’t see Rhaenyra as a sister. He sees her as an extension of her son’s who bullied him, who caused him to lose an eye. He sees them as an extension of his father who neglected him, who raped his mother so he could be born, yet treated him like he was invisible and did nothing to gain justice for his missing eye.

So why would he love Rhaenyra? Rhaenyra is Viserys in his mind, and Viserys abused his mother, that family tormented him since he was a child….so yes, of course Alicent is a fool to him for having empathy for the people who abused and tormented them.

And if this AFTER Blood and Cheese--it adds insult to the wound. His nephew was killed, his niece was threatened with rape, his sister has lost her mind because of it...so why would he feel empathy for Rhaenyra, whom he probably blames for B&C?

1 year ago
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10 months ago

I really want to like HotD because I really like The Dance in F&B. But as the season went on, it became less of an adaptation of a story I remembered fondly and more of a prequel to a show I did not want to be reminded of. Please stop trying to mcu-ify the show and just tell a self-contained story. I absolutely do not care how this relates to characters who won't be alive for the next 200 years. Your plot and characters should matter and have stakes and motivations that are relevant NOW.

10 months ago

Reminder to everyone here that the actors have no control over the writing. None.

Tom Glynn Carney went round and round with Sara Hess about making Aegon a rapist. He lost greatly.

Nikolaj Coster Waldau had an interview a few years back where he talked about going to D&D and the rest of the writers time and time again, begging them to stop making Jaime such a big waffler. They told him he is an actor and to act, let them do the writing.

The actors have no power. They are contracted for multiple seasons as actors and if they tried to quit, they'd be sued for breach of contract.

10 months ago

"Isn't it great writing and super feminist when a cunning and ambitious political influencial woman willing to do anything for her children gets adapted into a meek, politically inept character who praises her abuser and condemns her children, grandchildren, father and brother either to death and/or lifelong imprisonment for the sake of a woman she only had contempt for in the source material! ❤️❤️❤️"

That's what some of you guys sound like right now


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