I Got It Just For You

Im sure that the main reason why antishippers say that "lolicon is csam", "darkshipping is illegal", "proshipping is unhealthy", yada yada, is because they just want more people to side with them.

So, basically spreading lies on purpose to try and get some people onto their side. While calling or relating dark fiction to propaganda...

Think for yourself and know your facts before going ballistic over drawings and fanfiction of characters.

all the andrew julia shippers and “andrew is a victim only” people have disappeared. amazing

finally got an opportunity to use this as a response 🥰

(here is the bonkers hot art I was commenting on)

Honestly, I don’t get how people can watch everything Ashley puts Andrew through and still think she isn’t the worse of the two right now. And saying she’s worse doesn’t mean Andrew gets a free pass, far from it, but come on, she absolutely wrecks him in episode 2 and especially in Decay. She’s the one who pushes him to the edge and breaks the promise she made back in episode 1. Every time someone tries to reason with Ashley or calm her down, she just doubles, even triples down. It’s the same cycle over and over: promises to change, only to spiral even further.

Now, if we’re talking about before episode 1, sure, Andrew was a total asshole and definitely played a big part in how Ashley ended up. But seriously, try raising a traumatized kid while being neglected yourself and see how well you turn out.

You are fundamentally misunderstanding what makes Andrew tic as a character, WHY he'd rather die than be separated from Ashley no matter how awful she gets, and why those two things make people go "He's just as bad as his sister, maybe even worse"

Andrew's entire inner struggle can be explained by his thoughts on Julia after she breaks up with him "You'll never see her again, and the fact that it doesn't bother you bothers you."

Unlike Ashley, Andrew has at least some understanding of what a normal, healthy, GOOD person does or doesn't think/feel/do. But he still has all the same petty, immature, selfish, possessive, controling, manipulative and violent impulses Ashley has.

That's why, no matter if the player is making Andrew stand up for himself or revert back to Andy, the parents and the campers still die, because Andrew resents the former and doesn't care about the latter. Why his relationship with Julia is doomed, and why he'll get furious at the very thought of Ashley being with someone else. Why Ashley's obviously fake tears still convinced him to leave Nina, a girl he knows is asmathic and has clearly heard said the words "I can't breathe", locked up in a dusty box all night.

Despite knowing better, he still goes along with all the vile things Ashley wants - because even though he knows it's wrong, some sick part of him either doesn't care about these people (and thus doesn't care what Ashley puts them through) or actively ENJOYS their suffering just as much as his sister does.

Ashley is a chaotic, impulsive, reckless type of evil, and thus acts on impulse. Andrew is all about PREMEDITATED evil. He doesn't really "snap" and "get pushed too far" or even "gives into pressure/manipulation" that often. Most of the time he's making the conscious choice to ignore what he knows it's right. He doesn't care about the harm he causes, but he knows he should, and that brings him shame.

That's why in Burial, if he embraces the "Ashley and me VS the world" mentality, he is SO calm with all the vile things he's doing, that even his sister is shocked, and both demons/entities take an interest in him (as he likely "hatches" into a Tar Soul like Ashley in that route, instead of being just a grime one like in Decay, wich we explicitly know is all about self-perception - aka despite lack awareness of most things, Ashley was the only one between the siblings, up to that point, to not kid herself about the evil they did).

That's why Ashley doesn't just break her promise about never mentioning Nina again, but also points out that Andrew chose to kill her too.

Being "the doormat" that is simply "too weak willed" to tell Ashley no is far more comfortable for him than admiting that, even if she had never been born, even if he had been an only child, he would still be a terrible person, and would actively seak out someone like Ashley so he'd have someone who can understand and accept him.

"Snapping" at her only when she (admitedly) does horrible things to him that no one else would tolerate gives him a way out of acknowledging that there's a part of him that, no matter how much he loves Ashley, genuinely wants to hurt her simply because he's a monster too, not because of anything she did.

That's why he's so codependent to the point of killing himself right after murdering her - she's a terrible sister, friend, girlfriend and partner in crime, but she's still the scapegoat. If she's not around anymore, Andrew will run out of excuses, and in Decay he'd rather die than accept responsibility. In Burial? We'll see.

"Ashley is worse than Andrew" is and has always been bullshit. They're both violent, controlling, possessive, manipulative, and abusive towards each other in every way imaginable (verbal, psychological, physical, sexual). They're the exact same. And Andrew is well aware of it because, to some extent, Ashley is his creation as much as Renee's. And while he knows that should be tragic for several reasons (including the fact that he couldn't have been expected to act differently since he was just a child too) there's some part of him that is PROUD of having damaged his sister that much.

That's why he'll say things like "you're the most alluring thing I've ever laid eyes on", or mentally gush about how "his" Ashley summoned a demon on her first try, beat her to break her down even more, or actively use their feelings for each other to get her to fall in line, just like she does with him.

Andrew doesn't want Ashley to be "better", despite seeing all the harm she causes to everyone - including the two of them. At some point, he went from "Innocent child that should have never been raising another child, especially one like Ashley, because he's obviously unfit for the job and will accidentally enable her" to "Bastard that is actively shaping his sister/girlfriend to be the perfect scapegoat/partner in crime."

If she weren't exactly what she is, Andrew would have gotten rid of her a long time ago, like he did with all their victims.

Why are people still denying that Andrew Graves is a bad person, and always has been in nearly every way just like his little baby sister? Should I list examples from 3a decay?

Was it when he back handed Ashley? Or watching her get undressed through a keyhole? Was it when he admitted he didn't like anyone and never has with the exception of Ashley, and his only perogative has always been keeping up with appearances? Was it when he admitted he thought about knocking Julia's teeth out, so she would give better head? Or was it shamelessly murdering a child as a full grown man? Or when he beat Ashley senseless and then kissed her shortly after?

"But wahh wahha mean Ashley Graves forced Andrew's hand! He's a little baby victim!!!"

Can it and just admit you want to self insert yourself with a cute lil emo boy.

" irl yandere !

Proshippers dni!! "

[ … ] “you say all the right things, but you don’t mean any of it. there is something cold and dead where your heart should be.”

miss julia clocked andrew to the bone.

I mean we can all be honest here right? Vi thinks Caitlin is hot because her blue hair reminds her of Jinx. Not treading new ground here but the "Why are you the one acting like her?" line really reminds me of that fact.

I'm not into articles like these, but this had me cackling

Bro she was supposed to become her LoL character in season 2. That was the whole point of her development and trauma, she was MEANT to no longer give a fuck of it and do shit her way despite everyone else. She wasn't meant to be humanized the way she is and the fandom makes her be. She was my favourite female character because she doesn't give a fuck. If she wants to blow up a city, she will. Why? Because she just can.

ARCANE Jinx and Vi -> hugs through the seasons