There are so many good streaming deals but I barely even watch TV and tubi exists so no.
he like lives in south A he should make a spanish album and then star in a telenovela on the cw. He should be in the jane the virgin reboot.
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So funny that I was right even though I never know for sure but I do because I'm awesome and a great guesser like always. Very intuitive.
So I was mostly correct not only did he go for an island beyonce baby boy type theme for adult swim he also used a girl that looks very similar to fkj twigs he still has her album on his shelf that's the only album in his entire house he keeps visible almost every single time he does a live in his office.
Like he never does that for anything else, except legos.
So yeah not surprised her mary magdelene album really affected him in a super deep way.
Now I remember when I ranted and said he needs to leave that lame music alone and just do afrobeats girl we got it
Like let's go finally.
It was making me so eep seeing the lame 2003 hip hop and off white pop songs like no, just no. Domino is a disgrace to music and I'll never support it. His goms are soo lame even the blk ones they have no taste they just accept whatever he does cause they are desperate and super duper thirsty. He gets ideas from movies and other people's music videos.
Like I been knew this would be afrobeats no 1 he was obsessed with black is king, 2 it's whats hot rn and sm approves of things that are already popular and 3 he's bla-jacent of course he'd go for what's easiest.
Anyway. So now before the album I want to list all that I think that should happen because I'm certain it's not done yet so things are still malleable
So firstly they should have a black cast in the music video and latino and southeast asian. Honestly it's time for him to have a diverse theme for once, like it just needs to happen like firstly he's doing afrobeats and any lack of authenticity will not be well received secondly the adult swim was great like it could be a whole drama
I love old film styles like this. I know it's to much to ask but imagine a lifetime esque movie from his childhood to adulthood to pair with this album like that would be perfect.
Okay they need to have a companion drama inside the music video
I'm thinking a one to 2 minute talking scene with whatever girl or guy or whatever he is talking to in the video, doesn't have to be female just we need a cast and something real. Almost like a skit so that we know the music video is about something more than just selling records it needs to tell a story.
Thriller was 10 minutes and it changed music videos and pop music. He needs to do something like that. Or even better like a mini web drama to pair with the album I'm hoping they do that or hey even a web comic. Like just something to continue the story so we can have some variety.
Like some behind the scenes for adult swim, maybe a few talking scenes and learning the situation and culture.
I also think he should pair this comeback with a movie or a drama.
So for the music video I'm hoping it's extremely diverse both in style dress, cast and theme. I think we can take everything a step farther he's obsessed with beyonce so clearly he's going for the alien superstar thing which is fine but I think he should branch out and go the extra mile. A real duet, or even like a interpretive dance something different.
Also they can have a unique or original setting like maybe an abandoned mall, or a dessert storm, or a mexican corner for a street dance scene. Just something new fresh and hot, no more cold dead boring techno oriental nonsense. It worked in 2020 when standards were deceased for art but now he needs light in his work real light not just green screens.
We need at least 4 to 5 afrobeats
the rest can be like journals type songs it doesn't have to be heavy it can be light rnb. But no more white boy pop he just can't carry that properly.
so examples
girl like I want DIVERSITEA
THE SM BOTS CAN TAKE THESE CONCEPTS TO USE FOR THE ALBUM i'LL ALLOW IT
Like I'm getting scenic, tropical beach, like 1960s film roll
and for him I mean for outfits I think if you're doing afrobeats it's either 1950s upstyle or....alternative tribal wear
ahh imagine an opening shot like this
I know it's supposed to be techno according to the photos but..I don't want that and he already wore an outfit very similar to beyonce's shimmy shimmy outfit so I'm just gonna shoot for the stars
sheer top
heck just do extensions Idk
maybe I'm wanting too much to recreate my favorite old jungle book film but idc I hope it's something like that
ooh and it's time he should get a wavy perm look
this hair is SOO good I think this would perfectly balance out his features
and hmm
also this type of album cover
also
or what about a baby pic like zyn or ama
idk I just want a mini film, maybe some aquatic ape theory idk, just something very diverse and interesting.
also since its multiverse they can add in art to the photos
also the futuristic heavenly thing is becoming more common
but really I would love a comic or webtoon to go with the album
also in ahs and supernatural they had cgi wings
maybe try that so they are more lifelike the clip ons are a bit iffy
they can also be artistic and put gold paint on
It's been years I want high high high art
the literal highest, I don't want to be disappointed.
but also ghetto and ratchet, like all at the same time. I just hope it can encompass all these things.
man my mind.
This is a bit wild but like........the previous albums I didn't put much out there but what I did put out happened so maybe just go insane and shoot for the stars and land on the moon. A feature would be nice to, like maybe someone like ama lou or another low key but respectable indie artist it would bring it up a notch and make it so different from what other artist in his field do, it's the type of thing that gets attention from outside traditional fandom circles.
lmao at people who actually thought the exo vocalists were at Zayn's caliber. Even Zayn "Bradford" Malik
has to work hard to maintain his level of talent, touring is no joke and wears your vocals out that being said you should be able to get a clear grasp on somebody's best and their average
I used zayn cause honestly I am trying to be fair and use a modern example and not people way back in the day. Also I remember this
jk jk. Girl I've never fan voted in my entire life, but I remember this happening though.
But using 1d and using the same standards some Exo supporters use when talking to fans of other kpop group
: do you really think people who aren't true artists of the craft can actually outdo people who can sing a soulful rnb song in their sleep? No, way too much association game being played. Just because s.m entertainment got a leg up from Quincy Jones
and got a bunch of his songwriters and associates and producers
(no this literally isn't even half of it lmao)
to help exo make 'black music'. "Popular music' "We can rock with this music'
Don't mean they are on that level like that. Please note the people that own this music and who own a lot of the music s.m used they all in some way go back to uptown
or motown
In some way, shape or form, because the black music industry was kept separate from the white for a long time, there's a very small crew and circle of people involved in the black music scene. A lot of it has merged into sub labels of larger companies like Universal or Sony. A lot of these songwriters of pretty much indentured and must continue to churn out these 'hits' and it doesn't necessarily matter where in the world it goes so long as it's sold.
They are classically trained singers and can do just as much as a classically trained singer around the world can. But they aren't blowing anyone outside of the average chaebol kid who don't even really care about performing out of the water. S.m taught them well but not nearly well enough for the ego their fans have developed.
Smtown entertainment was built off the foundation of motown, to be the korean version of motown. It's talent is mediocre compared to the original talent the company was based off of, but I suppose compared to the copy of a copy of a copy that exists in Kpop now it's something.
Personally they struggle to outdo Japanese acts artistically as well. In their heyday they created their own genres so unique japanese energy in and of itself was a movement, so I don't understand the superiority.
To be fair Japanese entertainment was on one back in the day from the 80s to early 2000s they ruled even American pop culture
Japan had a longer history with allowing it's citizens and artists freedom of expression, they were able to show out for a good while and gain respect slowly but surely in the international arts realm.
Korea tried to make up for decades of artistic freedom in like a single decade. They are still very rigid with their approach and of course adhere to the strict controlling method of the idol culture model, set by Japan who honestly was way loser even back in the day and even more now.
They critiqued obsessed idol fans back in the day with movies like perfect blue. Of course it still happened but trust when the modern culture shames something and the rest of the world is watching it does effect how people act. Imagine if their was an Hbo show that was about the kpop industry and obsessed kpop fans it definitely would make people tone down. People act differently when people really know what's going on in a situation.
Perfect blue is a mirror to fan culture at it's roots. It's fanatical, a bit unhinged but it's socially acceptable all the same.
A film I believe is necessary for anyone stuck in the idol worship process. It's 'these people don't know you' but artsy.
Even Lee Soo man sent Boa to japan to solidify her career back in the day.
They've had their gender wars, yaoi shotacon era, weird asf eras, religious guilt era, smooth jazz, blues, rap, kawaii, wannabe hood, what's our place in the universe era etc etc as a culture as a society. So their idol industry had a chance to grow slowly, rise up and simmer down naturally. Whereas Kpop just kind of had 20 or so years to boom and the artists have little more growth and development as a disney channel show after 3 seasons.
Boa of course went with the techno chic style that ruled Japan in the early 90s and she did very well.
America however is an entirely different beast, the talent in america is on a different level. Hybrid vigour going 1...2
but that's just a theory. Point is America's a different playground
(I was seven when I first watched her mv on mtv)
this is why most kpop gets their sound from abroad
(Boa's debut single eat you up was made by european producers I guess they were going for a more fusion Backstreet boys style american debut but there is a remix with Flo Rida)
(I may do a breakdown on this later, but it's just the way sm approached the whole thing. They wanted to create an urbanized Boa. That's such a dumb way to go about it. No concern for what actually fit her. That's sm's biggest mistake not letting their artists make their own decisions and be their own people. I watched an interview of her in La back in 2008/9 and she seemed like she was being shuffled around. This producer to that producer, now having to just become a whole new person. It didn't fit. Particularly because she wasn't american, it's not second nature or something she was at all used to.)
For s.m the superiority must be because the korean government is backing them up so they know they cannot fail. Now they feel superior to all of other asian talent and many go to korea to have a chance at becoming globally famous. That's fine.
Even fans of vocal deities don't go around disrespecting everyone like their fans do. Just because they made a point to imitate black singers and use their demos early in their career don't mean they are more elite than anybody else. I never see adele fans do this, it's giving insecurity. You don't have to keep repeating something everybody knows. I feel like as more time goes on the lack of originality is making their remakes more forgettable.
To use a comparison again, in one direction it was almost annoying how obsessed they were about songwriting, they were always in the studio trying to out do one another with the songs they made. Back in the day I thought it was pointless and I felt like Exo was more fun because they focused more on their bond and spending time together.
Now that I'm older it's woven all throughout the music that they had personal deep connections to what they were writing. This is why there are performances where the lyrics actually emotionally effect them, life, death, relationships, breakups, things the fans knew about things we didn't. That's what makes an artist.
Apparently a few members had writing credits on Kokobop and I read about what they said concerning it,
I will say that the group has added to a lot of their songs but I don't believe the craft for songwriting and composing becomes them. In Kpop I noticed many songs created lack a certain spark of life and personal touch
The fine details are also important, this isn't an exposing of the group simply clarification on things that aren't delved into. Many of the songs are remade and have a previous demo.
Knowing the background of the songwriting trio the stereotypes creating hits like Justin Bieber's somebody to love, Tomboy by Destiny Rodgers, Rocketeer by Far East Movement, they have quite a track record and their work is well known. I believe the average fan would give all the credit to Chanyeol because he 'worked on it'.
A very easy thing to find out but when people see an Exo members name on it many ignore anything else about it.
Especially with how they've regarded the black community in general. You truly wouldn't know the impact the black music industry had on kpop or sm unless you were american and it was just obvious to you already, or you researched and figured it out.
I bring this up to say the main compliment I see regarding exo's superior vocals is when members sing high notes and whatnot, which is fine. I love all types of vocals some of my favorite bands of all time is the fray and onerepublic, I purposely mention them because they are grown people music and not for immature 'stans' I hate whenever I bring up an artist that stan culture doesn't like and people bring up streams or who they dated as a drag. It's so immature and petty. So I use them because their music and vocals are not pass out but they are people who have mastered their own voice. It's unique, soulful and not trying to be anybody else. Personally to me this is when I know someone is a true master of their craft whenever they put their soul into their music when they sing.
In my personal opinion I always felt like I couldn't talk years ago, there was no room for oh yeah this artist kind of sings a bit better--if they didn't have stats, weren't popular it didn't matter. Yet, when people in the kpop fandom talked about their favorite artist they were top tier best in the industry and they had the numbers to prove it.
Now years later because the numbers aren't as good as people in the fandom may want it to be; they put other groups or artists down because they aren't real 'singers'. Then show clips of what is love/what if or some other obvious 90s rnb demo or a 90s japanese style pompeii style epic .
I just rarely see commentary about the obvious influences that were used to create the group that Exo's mythos/style/clothing and setup were based off of.
Which they can do because their leader/owner made friends with the right people and opened up a world of connections for them. Because many other groups have been cancelled for jacking theme's and concepts but that never happens with exo because sm owns/CALLS IN FAVORS/ with the media.
So those convo's are never had, so besides the average fanwar, most people can freely live in the world that exo is original and super duper talented above all others. Whenever someone wants to have a convo about this and actually know info about exo and can't just be deemed stupid and uneducated then 'it's not that important'
I tend not to bother or even talk about things that don't really irk me, but I can't lie sometimes I'm a bit irked. The false narratives truly do get to me, I remember a lot of stuff that many fans just weren't there for. I pass in on certain artists every now and then with Exo and Shinee being the only kpop boy groups I really listened to album after album, I keep wondering why I don't randomly get the urge to listen to them.
It could be a lot of reasons, bad memories, or I just am not into them as people. But celeb gossip to me means nothing. I don't care about rumors or someone's bad reputation if their music is good. It's not even the fandom cause some fandoms make me question humanity but when the beat drop I honestly don't really care
With Exo, honestly the music is something I have a hard time returning to. I once agreed with people that it was indeed better than other K-pop but now I'm starting to think that's a poor comparison. We are all equal, maybe not in ability but we all have the ability to put our heart and soul in what we do and if the music is good it should come off as right. There's little excuse when there are kids with youtube channels around the world who sound literally amazing, and they are no different than anybody, just singing to their heart's content. Passion, soul, drive. I believe that will always come off to others. It's what helped the civil rights cause for blacks back in the day, how they sang and danced. People just couldn't believe it.
Now we have an open market for talent so the competition is fierce but there is still people who blow listeners away. Every now and then I'll find a song that's good regardless of the singing style, they could be whispering or just humming and it sounds perfect, because they are doing what's for them.
Kpop is extremely manufactured to the point where this authenticity is very rare, few people truly sing with their heart and soul, it's mainly singing to impress and following a stiff formula. The problem with Exo mainly is the excellent catalogue they had access to, that lee soo man had access to. To me that was their ticket to stardom and a big reason not only for their success but the success of S.m entertainment as a whole. Many fans are less concerned with the details of how their artists and their work came to be and mainly are into the parasocial nature and competitive attitude of fandom for which the overall music and art suffers in my opinion.
The group finds little reason to give content and work very hard on their artistic ventures because honestly, who really cares. It's quite sad and the complete opposite of the music industry decades ago.
So most of the focus is just giving the group a concept, album or good song and the special touch the members give is next to none. The songs and albums could of been for anybody and deep down they know that which may lead to them being disconnected with their music.
Regardless as someone who watched many Untold stories about the black music industry, black artists were done bad, very badly, treated like dirt.
To see their music get new life is bittersweet because of the context in which it's happening, it seems ironic that people who care nothing for the cultural, political or even spiritual reasons for this music existing get to profit off of it. But that's just life. To get back into the talent aspect the singing in general all these years later I can hear now what my young ears couldn't. The vocal technique is mediocre and there is no attempt to fix it
Not only that fans who don't really care about vocal technique are going out of their way to claim not only is Exo superior to Kpop vocals which sure why not, but it's like a disrespectful attitude towards the black musicians and their 'versions'. As in the black musicians talent is ok but it couldn't compare to their Oppa's.
Many in kpop are guilty of this, but heavy is the head that wears the crown even after it's taken off. They are the kings of Kpop, no? Then they are responsible for inspiring the current generation more than anybody. If they are on the wrong path they are only following the example Exo set for them. They have called a lot of attention to their talent but I've yet to see them truly shine brighter than other's on their level. I believe there's a reason they stayed out of America. There is no such thing as constant popularity in the west. They don't just demand showing up and looking good and performing on a basic level. They want everything. Singing, dancing, choreography, artistry, political opinions etc etc.
Artists like Taylor Swift have written a majority of their music whether partially or fully. Hits and misses. It's a learning curve, but improvement is expected in the west. The more personal the better. Haley Williams also writes a majority of her music with her bandmates as well
Haley often talks first hand about her source of inspiration and always goes very deep when creating her music with her team.
constant artistic evolution is never easy there are blips and missteps but the point is an artist is responsible for putting their soul and passion into their work without concern of judgement.
Their hit Ain't it fun was unlike anything they'd done before fit with a gospel choir and all, it wasn't a sure hit but they went for it. A group can be an old group yet still keep it kicking artistically
weird and wacky can definitely work.
To keep going with the boyband contrasts Louis, and the other members, didn't just write one off songs he helped create songs that really had an impact on the group as well. This also helps with creativity because it must be discouraging to an artist to be an artist and have everything handed to them. How can they truly speak.
I put this in here because those boys really did work hard, they had a good run and they truly contributed to the music world despite having the most cookie cutter starting point.
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SHUSH.... he's reading
possible spoiler alert ig idk
So like I think it's not made yet they must be creating the concept and finishing the details rn, cause otherwise they wouldn't be doing all this obvious stuff. So since we still got time left here's some themes I want to be in the album
Siren vibes, but they can also add in beach vibes as well like tropical
there can be a reverse little mermaid story for the shortfilm
orr more aqua marine upbeat vibes
or like a fusion and make it sci fi
Honestly idk I have a bunch of theories cause it can also be more like beyonce's photoshoot
I just think they should go more indie and artsy and leave out the huge dance numbers that don't fit
What if the album cover is like 2005 blue crush vibes
I think the mv can be filmed more scenic
I have this huge marine spirit theory I made but it's like..eh nobody even knows what that is. Apparently people think it's all based off of some freaking manga. When that's total b.s mermaid legends exist globally I highly doubt over a literal decade of water symbology since his DEBUT, is based off a manga, please. Specifically in africa, I would like to just post all my theories but I don't really want to. But I would love to tie in the south american catholic symbolism in rover, cause there's so much, and it honestly goes perfectly with this beach theme, but I really don't have anything to prove so.
There is also pirates of the caribbean influence in peaches and years ago he said that was his favorite movie and they had mermaids in one film.
At the same times there's also a lot of atlantis references in peaches so I'm curious if it will be a red herring or it will actually tie into the mythos. Because in rover and mhmm he was in a dry desert but there were hints of him being locked in some type of water tank? in mhmm. But that could be a reference to them using him as a power source because water is a conductor. Idc what the internet says oceanic water has lots of salt and can respond to electricity. Also lightning in the sky is possible due to clouds. It's science somewhere in there, the ions and water and air creates energy.
Again it's still dealing with the four elements and creation energy so they are almost treating him like the creator deities in ancient egypt.
Though I am interested in how they are going to pull off the siren theme because mermen aren't usually seen in the media.
Although he's had the symbolism for years.
But I would love to at least get a legit analysis out before the album. I was supposed to do one years ago but it's like idk how people would react to it.
his teasers were more or less based off the four elements well five including the ether and /or electricity.
But water and sea life was the most prominent symbol for him and it's seen in almost every project that he has
in reality he's mostly portraying a creation god which is why he's in so many teasers and the others are usually in the teasers with him. His time stopping powers begin from debut also.
So it's clear he's a primordial diety not a simple one. Which is why in rover he kept switching identities because they recreate themselves over and over again.
Honestly I think their was so much attention on him having so many teasers no one actually considered that there was an actual purpose behind them or the exo mythos. Due to the fact that a majority of the concepts became intertwined with so many pop cultural moments at the time. Particularly when they began reenacting twilight and it was seen as cringe, I think the mythos became a running gag rather than something people actually paid attention to. Also there's so many cross references with other pop cultural works in kji's albums and things they were trying to recreate it got all muddled up so now people don't tie things together.
Like after peaches era they took a break and let him perform and tour. They still were continuing the mythos. There was tons of little easter eggs. I don't think I was psychic when I kept predicting what his next album was going to be it's just common sense. They always made sure his projects lined up with one another. They just also cover it up with so much drama and mess most people forget about it cause it "doesn't matter" the gossip matters even though it disappears after like few months.
Andante 2017 he had a love interest named Bom
Bom in Korean means spring
He volunteers at a hospice and frequently gets involved in their lives. He becomes emotionally attached to them and fixes varies issues for other people. In the show he acts like a guardian angel of sorts.
In the end of the show Bom "dies" of a brain disease but he still imagines her as being there.
2017
Kokobop
In the music video he has a tattoo of an angel on his neck
 January 13, 2018Â
He was in a drama called spring has come
The female main character was called Naoko which in japanese means
In the show Naoko was innocent and easily tricked by Jiwon and was deceived by his charming and innocent appearance, frequently helping him out and loaning him money in hopes of him creating a life with her. She did all of it in hopes that he would marry her, but emotionally he was traumatized by his mother trying to murder him.
The show is a metaphor for death and birth shown by the visualizations of marriage and intimacy. Spring representing rebirth and creation.
Jiwon acted as the director of the family and was able to "fix them" and make them perfect just like he does his subject in the first episode.
Due to his interference the family goes from disgruntled to happy. Although his motives remain unknown.
April 2, 2018
he played an angel in miracle that we met that accidentally takes the wrong life and must try to fix the situation. It's a mix of guardian angel/ greek gods messing with the affairs of humans. He tries to reunite the original husband and wife but can't. Throughout the show he tries to make it up to her and they develop and emotional bond.
It reminds me of the concept of the film the preacher's wife where dudly is supposed to be helping the married couple but ends up falling for the wife himself. To be fair he only began getting entangled with the wife after the husband abandoned her but still
I do find it interesting that most gifs are of him and the female character that he dances with at the end of the show, but that "female character" is actually his male shapeshifting boss Mao and there was no romance there. I believe they are actually spiritual brothers.
The only "romance" or emotional subplot he had on the show is with the wife character
But I think cause of the age gap it went over people's head, even though his character is most likely older than her but whatever.
I think people don't understand subtlety in romance drama's like he picked out her clothes it's kinda obvious.
This angel who doesn't follow instructions character also coincidentally would align with his rover symbolism where he "played" a fallen angel.
It's especially interesting because Mao was known as the one with 10,000 faces or identities
the writing on the portal is also not korean, I couldn't find out exactly but it looks thai or arabic or based off that type of script? Enochian? Idk
It's almost like they like maybe pushed to get him roles that tied into the exo mythos. They apparently have a binder all the way from the 80s or 90s from lsm.
In the show the kids who encountered Ato and saw his powers in person join a forum called miracle that we met, which is where the title of the show comes from. The forum is a place where people trade stories about seeing supernatural beings like angels and aliens.
One of the kids in the show theorized that Ato was just a model that nasa had created--- some type of a.r model characters to roam around the earth and mess with people. Which is really interesting cause at the time nobody really knew about that. This came out after the space force began to publicize more information about their projects.
But this show was in 2018...interesting.
Even more interesting is that Kai had an Augmented reality type concert film.
Like they're getting a little too sloppy. So I'm pretty sure I can figure out the theme or at least I can try.
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