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"No child ever kills a parent for something so base as pure greed (which, of course was the prosecutions simplistic theory, that demonized Erik and Lyle Menendez as part of the script that they hoped would end in death). Always something terrible has happened to ensure that this primal bond is not just torn or strained as it is with many families but blasted apart"

Leslie Abramson; The Defense is Ready

Erik Menendez cuteness appreciation post. Part 1

I love Erik’s smile so much 🩷

Before the trial, Lyle served as a jail trustee, delivering meals and distributing mail to fellow prisoners. He preferred it to being locked in a cell all day. At one point, Lyle Menendez became a tourist attraction, a popular diversion when visitors would tour the jail.

“They used to bring me out as a spokesperson,” he says. “They would bring me around the corner and sort of parade me like the Elephant Man or something. People were shocked. I don’t think they actually expected to meet me. The kids would all be excited, and I actually didn’t mind it.”

“They would recognize me immediately and I wouldn’t be handcuffed or anything,” he said. “I would just stand there with a few deputies and we would joke around. They allowed them to ask me questions and then they would say, ‘What’s it like? It must be a big switch for you, being in jail. How do they treat you in here?’ Obviously, I couldn’t say that they beat me down every day or something.”

PLAYBOY JULY 1995: Menendez Confidential: True Crime, by Robert Rand

Erik Menendez's smile and beauty appreciation post.

Hey guys! I wanted to share this photo of Erik & Lyle in court. I’ve never seen this photo before!

A sweet moment between Erik Menendez, Lyle Menendez and Lyle's lawyers, Jill Lansing and Michael Burt

Erik Menendez Part 5 (Cross-examination)

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“til the bed breaks”

I’m a walking red flag lately

Erik & Lyle Menendez heading into a court hearing on june 15th, 1990.

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"We alone know the truth. We alone know the secrets of our family's past. I do not look forward to broadcasting them around the country. I pray that it never has to happen. If it were not for you I doubt I would even try for manslaughter. I would rather try and escape or die. I struggle with my belief that men take responsibility for their actions, pleading abuse is not taking responsibility. We alone can get ourselves through this life after all that has happened.

I think if Dad could give us one piece of advice as we left the house that night in August, it would be never to abandon each other no matter the circumstance. Never turn against each other no matter the pressure. What we did in August was a mistake from what I can tell and I don't know what to do about it. What can I do? Nothing I guess. I honestly do not believe I am far away from packing my bags and calling it a life. I do not see things in terms of manslaughter and life terms. I only see win, lose, honor, and dishonor. I refuse to give up for Dad's sake. He is watching and I will not disappoint him a second time, or Mom by giving up and having their deaths be in vain." — Lyle Menendez.

Lyle Menendez ca. 1970.

“Did he talk to Lyle when he was a small child as if he was a small child?”

“No, he talked to him as an adult.”

“And did that go on until Lyle was an adult?”

“Of course.”

“Do you recall when he was a little toddler?

“Yes I do.”

“Do you recall how Kitty treated Lyle when he was very young?

“She did not like Lyle, she seemed to resent him.”

“Did she pay much attention to him?”

“No, she did not.”

“Did she pick him up and hug him and kiss him and coo and fondle and cuddle and do any of those things?”

“No.”

“Did you ever see a situation, particularly during that week’s visit when Lyle would express hunger? That he was hungry?”

“Well, he would fetch for himself. He would go get on top of whatever was needed and just try to reach whatever he wanted to eat.”

“Okay, and did you comment on this to your sister in law?”

“Yes, I tried to grab whatever he was trying to grab at one time and Kitty told me “Marta leave him alone! He can do it for himself, he’s used to it.”

“And he’s four and a half, going on five?”

“Yeah.”

“Had you seen anything like that even earlier?”

“Yes.”

“At about what age? What of Lyle’s age?”

“Two, two and a half.”

“And how’d it come up at two or two and a half?”

“Lyle would just go and climb a chair and get on top of the counter and get his cereal and rip off the box and pour it out and it was just a disaster.”

“At that stage before the child went and climbed and tried to do these things did he express hunger? Did she in other words, did you ever hear her tell him as a little guy go get it yourself or feed yourself?”

“No, I did not. He seemed to know that, he seemed to know that he would just go and get it himself.”

“When you observed Lyle at that young age climbing counters and reaching inside cereal boxes was your sister in law present?”

“Yes.”

“Did she make a move to grab the baby so he doesn’t fall off the counter?”

“No.”

“Nothing?”

“No.”

“Did you make a move?”

“Yes I did.”

“And that’s when she stopped you and said he can fend for himself?”

“That’s correct.”

— Marta Cano (Lyle & Erik’s aunt) during direct examination with Erik’s attorney Leslie Abramson

he wants that cookie so baddd 😭😭

gihun next season when the guy he was thirsting over is not only the mastermind behind the games themselves but also the brother of the cop who was helping him dismantle the whole operation

"I have had a fantasy since the day I started representing Erik, if people were to ask me after three and half years of thinking about him and this case every single day somehow or another, even on vacation. What is it I want out of it, my answer is not necessarily a legal one. There’s only one thing I could actually focus on that I wanted. I want to see him walk down street, not in chains, not in shackles, not with a deputy sheriff standing next to him. Now to fulfil my dream and my fantasy, you’d have to come back with a verdict of not guilty and if you don’t feel you can do that based on the instructions that you’re getting. I would ask that you come back with a verdict of involuntary manslaughter because I believe that’s what the evidence shows."

Leslie Abramson

This is after Lyle has been arrested.

Lyle Menendez in 1978.

“Did the medical history also show a history in August of 1976 of a speech articulation disorder and below grade level school performance?”

“Yes.”

“Did it also include an entry on August 4th, 1978 that he grinds his teeth?”

“I remember the teeth grinding.”

“Was there also a report on October 19th, 1976 of stomach pains?”

“Yes.”

“On March 7th, 1977 of global headaches?”

“Yes.”

“Was there also various reports from 1971 to 1989 of complaints of headaches?”

“Yes.”

“Would any doctor looking at that full range of symptoms been alerted to the possibility of sexual abuse?”

“I’m not aware of any physicians in the 1970’s that would have made… would have even thought of the diagnosis of child sexual abuse. The same symptom constellation today probably a small percentage of physicians would make that connection, even though many of those things are symptoms that are seen in children that are sexually abused over a long period of time I don’t believe that the average physician, even the average pediatrician would make that connection.”

“Even today with that advanced state of knowledge that there is with the examination of child sexual assault victims do physicians miss possibilities that a child has been sexually abused?”

“Certainly.”

“Back when some of these examinations were made that is the examinations made by physicians who examined Lyle Menendez for instance in 1971 when he was three years old or 1974 when he was six years old, was the state of knowledge such at that point that it was even a higher likelihood that a physician may have missed indications of child abuse?”

“Absolutely.”

— Testimony of Dr. Kerry English regarding Lyle’s medical history as a child

Lyle's reaction to something Donovan said.