Don't Ever Remind Me Of Miraculous Ladybug It's That Serious To Me. I Treat The Writing Of Ml Like Being

i can't go on tiktok and read comments. revelator has done something insane because i have seen so many comments saying what marinette is doing when it comes to lying about gabriel being hawkmoth is 100 percent correct and alya being upset about her lying is wrong. am i fucking crazy? am i out of my mind right now? or do tiktok comment sections live in an entirely different universe than me? because what do you mean it's the correct option to lie to the entire world about how the person who has terrorized them for years is actually a hero and not even tell his son that his father was a criminal. omfg does no one understand the concept of justice or closure or autonomy. even if telling the world gabriel agreste was hawkmoth might result in adriens life becoming harder, why not tell adrien and let him make ab informed decision about any of it? or do people hate letting other people other than marinette make decisions. this is actually driving me insane like i can't actually deal with reading people saying marinette is morally correct. what are we teaching people right now

okay not to say any of these aren't valid takes people can like what they like and make what they want it's just crazy to me this is what people focus on when they're writing reviews of miraculous ladybug. or they get mad because it's a baby kids show for babies which like okay get real. in my opinion the worst thing about miraculous ladybug is simply that its narrative is completely incoherent. it can't hold a theme to save its life so it picks 5000 and puts it in a blender. it's a baby kids show and gabriel vomits ash in the finale from internal-cataclysming but they can't handle adrien finding out his dad is like. bad. and child abuse is like. wrong. if you can't handle child abuse as a theme then do not make hawk gabriel agreste moth a FATHER!!! crazy work.

i hate miraculous ladybug but i disagree with everyone else who hates miraculous ladybug and that's my true real problem. no video essay does it for me because they're literally wrong (because my opinion is always right btw) and every salt blog is wrong. "adrien should be the main protagonist" wrong. "the biggest problem is marinette being a stalker" wrong bad faith argument not understanding the genre (though it is a valid criticism to be uncomfortable with it personally) "marinette is a mary sue" literally wrong. "adrien is a gary stu" wrong. "adrien sucks and this is why marinette should get with some random guy named robin." what the fuck are you talking about.

At a certain point, ppl really have to understand that you can't really judge anything normally in ML bc the writing is just that bad. It reminds me of the discourse over Marinette killing the sentis Gabriel sent after them. Stop looking at it as "Marinette is a murderer for killing sentis" and look it as "the writing is so inconsistent that they can't decide which sentis count as real people", and it's the same for this bc the senti logic is one of the worst parts of the lore. These characters are not real and do not operate on any internal logic bc there is none. That should be what the focus is. You're not gonna find any real answers looking at things from a Watsonian perspective anymore unless you're doing it as a fun thought experiment and absolutely nothing else

Precisely

You can’t follow the show’s logic and arrive to a conclusion that hasn’t already contradicted itself

That’s why I (and so many others) choose to focus on on critiquing the meta aspects instead of wasting time on a fool’s errand

I don’t get why it’s so difficult for some people to understand that

not so easy

someone's had to write a fic where adrien is told to wear his dead parents wedding rings and no one tells him of their importance so in an act of grief he does something like punch a mirror or flush them down the toilet and everyone has to deal with the fact that not informing adrien of his remote control autonomy has resulted in disastrous consequences right

okay i will say one of the least utilized parts of ml is that the lovesquare isn't the only characters that can have multiple dynamics at once. and in fact one of my things i wanna do in a rewrite is have gabriel/hawkmoth have different dynamics with the main characters depending on persona.

for example; what is an interaction between hawkmoth and adrien agreste actually like? in a scenario where potentially hawkmoth finds out about ladybug being attached to a civilian AND having the excuse of knowing it because it's a popular model so it wouldn't out his identity, would he choose to endanger his son? or maybe would he do it himself instead of trusting an akuma, knowing he won't actually follow through with a threat to adriens life while an akuma would?

what's a dynamic between chat noir and gabriel? that's a superhero gabriel wants the miraculous from, but he can't be blatant about it, and more than that, he has no power over a superhero and no reason to dislike him. it's fascinating.

one of my fav fucked up things is the concept of adrien talking more to hawkmoth than his own father because gabriel learns that adrien is one of the most effective ways to bait ladybug. hawkmoth can read emotions, and one day he reads ladybugs enough when Adrien is in the vicinity- and woah, her emotions are so strong about him it's readable through the magical cloaking, even! he even justifies it morally because it's not like adrien is ever hurt. is it kidnapping if it's your own son? is it really hurting him if all your doing is playing chess with him on top of the eiffel tower, an unspoken threat of super powered violence enough to keep him from doing anything reckless? gabriel is spending time with his son /and/ getting the miraculous. and at the end of the day... when gabriel gets the wish, he can fix it all - so it'll be okay! :)

our spiritually elevated rejection of canon vs their intellectually dishonest refusal to engage with the text

miraculous ladybug season 6 but instead of marinette panicking and sabotaging her confessions of love. now every episode she is panicking and sabotaging her confession that adrien is a little boy made of duct tape, a feather, and a dream.

this blog is both me complaining and me talking about the 500 concepts miraculous ladybug proposes that makes me go insane and think about even though i think they were mistakes to include in a kids show. like there's two different shows in my head - miraculous ladybug a fun kids romp that teaches children morals, and there's a miraculous ladybug that is actually aimed towards an older (teenage) audience that is more serialized with more serious topics. right now ml is trying to do both and they suck dogshit at it.

Man, Adrien learning about the lies really IS the new Adrien learning about Chat Blanc for the fandom, isn't it? I have seen so much fan content around it... Watch canon do the same fix where no one ever tells him and yet he's unable to fight in the final right because he just magically knows.