adding onto this, it’s so important to me that jason was chosen for his heart even when classist stereotypes would expect him to be naturally violent, cruel, and selfish.
he only becomes more aggressive and bitter the more time he spends as robin BECAUSE of robin. he saw all the injustice first hand in violent crime and the ineffective, corrupt system and he became frustrated. he wanted to kill two face because he killed his father; he wanted to attack the pimp because he directly saw him beating up a woman; he might have killed garzonas because he had to witness gloria’s dead body and garzonas would walk free to do that to other women, just out of america.
jason’s not naturally violent and cruel, it’s what he’s learned is the only way to protect other victims in a world that perpetuates suffering.
i know starlin is seen as the main post-crisis jaybin writer but jason writers PLEASE read collins
(pictures are from batman #409 and #411)
being doomed by the narrative is cool and all but i like when a character is doomed just by being a fucking idiot. sorry that happened to you but it is entirely your own fault and you could have just chosen to not do all that
for some reason dick & jason's relationship is often written as if jason was supposed to know plenty about dick even before they met for the first time, but in canon he knew close to nothing other than the fact that he was the previous robin (or rather, not even that, but i sort of refuse to believe that the topic did not come up even *once,* no matter how much bruce would like to avoid it). hence, i think upon hearing that dick used to be in a circus, jay should (completely seriously) ask him if he was a clown
i also think people try to equate bruce and jason’s flaws as vigilantes despite the fact that they are representative of two distinct issues. wrt bruce there is a dissonance between his awareness of the law as a tangible, corruptible institution versus his belief in the law as an intangible, incorruptible ideology (hence his relationship with gordon as a “good cop” who uniquely upholds the law as bruce sees it despite the fact that gordon is realistically as much an extension and product of the corruptible institution as much as anyone else is, and the ideology bruce wants to believe in is created by the institution). wrt jason there is a dissonance between his helplessness in the face of the institution and his over-corrective ideology that thereby bleeds into a mimicry of said institution (which you could correctly criticize as character assassination of the socially marginalized, and/or use as a conduit to explore the divide between defensive and offensive vigilantism)
post exam season deep cleans >>>
Batman and his robins but it’s ‘I’m Your Man’ by Mitski (other than steph maybe because bruce was just awful to her)
i know starlin is seen as the main post-crisis jaybin writer but jason writers PLEASE read collins
(pictures are from batman #409 and #411)
Abandon all hope ye who enter here - warning you should heed before becoming a JT fan
I have used dog metaphors to describe Jason in his relationships with others on multiple occasions but Alfred straight up telling Bruce that maybe he needs to take his new puppy back to the shelter is not something even I could’ve come up with
“He would not fucking say that” except its the badly written source material so he did, in fact, say that