I Can Understand Why People Want To Think The Coffee Was Laced Or Something But The Answer Is A Lot More

I can understand why people want to think the coffee was laced or something but the answer is a lot more simple. It was a thought out, calculated manipulation. The Metatron took Aziraphale away from his home and the one person he trusts. He begins to praise him, saying he’d be a much better fit to lead heaven. He used Crowley as a bargaining chip. Well we can bring him with us of course! He can be forgiven and you two can be happy and safe! Of course Aziraphale wouldn’t see past that. He wants nothing more than to do good and be with the person he loves the most.

It wasn’t coffee that made him do what he did, it’s being stuck and a toxic and manipulative relationship with Heaven. He took the first chance he got to go back because it’s what’s familiar to him. Even though he knows how bad it is. He thinks, if I can just change it, it can all be better! It’s a parallel to toxic human relationships. The idea that you can change the other for the better, but in doing so you sacrifice everything important to you.

Hope this made sense (not the best at writing my thoughts down)

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1 year ago

I'm not really getting the Aziraphale hate because even without all the pressures of religious brainwashing etc etc we've literally just seen through his eyes:

- Crowley radiating joy at the sheer wonder of the universe only to be crushed by orders from up high

- Those orders being the ONLY reason Crowley fell. Aziraphale knows (and has always known) that Crowley fell simply because no one wanted to listen to his ideas.

- 6000 of Crowley clearly aching to do good in defiance of his own nature

- Crowley admitting how desperately lonely that defiance is for him

- Crowley being BETTER than Aziraphale at morality and making Aziraphale better as a result

- Evidence that no one is ever going to be chill with Angel/Demon relationships unless they are too powerful to be stopped and/or willing to vanish

- That they are never going to escape the monitoring of heaven/hell (they literally were *stalked* by both sides the entire season) so they can't just live unnoticed among humans

- Even during their last few years of 'freedom' Crowley has still been desperately unhappy. He's at the 'what's the point of it all???' stage BEFORE anything bad happens in S2. For all he talks about the preciousness of their life, Crowley is radiating misery during his freedom whereas Aziraphale actually seems happy.

Like why WOULDN'T Aziraphale see this offer as the perfect solution? Crowley can get what he always wanted - to do good without anyone stopping him, with Aziraphale helping. It can be exactly like the nebula scene forever - only this time Aziraphale can just bask in Crowley's joy.

From his pov he is sacrificing his own life on Earth for THAT.

Oof we are in the last 20% of a very angsty slow burn, kiddos.

6 months ago
-it Takes A Lot To Breathe,

-it takes a lot to breathe,

to touch, to feel,

-the slow reveal of what

another body needs.


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1 year ago

Here's the thing though right. What if Crowley didn't actually realize he was in love? He projects his very own "fall in love" scenario (sheltering from the rain) onto Maggie and Nina, but when Nina suggests that they're an item he looks quietly dumbstruck. He doesn't even think to say anything until the others tell him he needs to. We all know he fell in love on the walls of Eden, but I don't think he *does*.

And then Aziraphale, who takes longer to get there, gets his revelation when Crowley saves his books. He's known how he feels since 1941, with all the fear and quiet devastation that goes with it. And now, now that they're free, he's ready. He wants to move on with Crowley, he touches and flirts and dances and says "our car". He's *ready*. And he's trying to show it the best way he knows how.

But Crowley doesn't know. Crowley who's loved him so well from the very beginning, DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IT'S LOVE HE'S FEELING, and he doesn't understand what Aziraphale's been trying to tell him. And now he's alone.

1 year ago

no but it's the way for aziraphale "nothing lasts forever" meant "i'm willing to give up the bookshop if it means i can be with you safely" and for crowley it meant "nothing lasts forever, not the bookshop, not earth, not us"

8 months ago

everyday i watch people on twitter praise a show that has one or two queer characters in 2024 for being groundbreaking for things torchwood did in 2006


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1 year ago

listening to the pronunciation samples wikipedia offers of different types of consonants and you know what, I don't believe some of these are actually different sounds. I think this is some audiophile shit like gold-plated cables.

1 year ago

Aziraphale was not miracled by the coffee you guys. He legit thinks he’s doing the right thing. That’s what makes it so sad.

He wants to go with Crowley but he can’t because the opportunity to fix everything is too important and how does Crowley not understand??? Why won’t he just COME WITH ME TO FIX EVERYTHING!???

Then Crowley kisses him and that just completely shatters him because he can’t go with him. In his eyes, he can’t pass up this chance no matter how much he doesn’t want to hurt Crowley. “I forgive you” for not coming to fix things with me. And Crowley knows the moment he says that he’s not going to change his mind and says “don’t bother”. Don’t bother forgiving me, don’t bother explaining why you won’t come with me. Just don’t bother. I’m done trying to convince you.

Perfectly in character. Horribly tragic. Poetic cinema.

Torn between duty and love. One chooses love, one chooses duty.

Classic.

2 weeks ago

I think part of the problem of modern storytelling is there has been a shift from character focus to message focus.

It's Doctor Who saying "look the evil alt right podcaster has trapped everyone in a weird heteronormative wish world that's baaaaaad uhb we don't know how to resolve it satisfyingly" vs "Rose dragged along a guy she thought cute and he turned out to be a jerk and used time travel to gain access to future secrets and we see her and the Doctor react to that in a way thar shows us more about their character." It's "the Beatles are here kind of as a backdrop to our drag queen villain isn't that fun woo musical number" vs "let's tell a touching story about Vincent van Gogh's depression and relate that to what our characters are currently going through."

And its not just Doctor Who--it's pervasive. It's "let's tell a character focused story of Anakin Skywalker's fall to the darkness and the love around him that wasn't enough" vs "Star Wars is GAY and look at her BLEED her LIGHTSABER." It's "Here's a 19 year old who lost her parents and has to raise her difficult sister, let's see her motivations and love for her sister" vs "Nani is doing the Right Thing for Herself because going to College is Girlboss!"

And this isn't the first time the focus of storytelling has shifted--before it was character focused, we had concept focus. Doctor Who exploring Roman times or a realm made of stories, where characters carry the plot, but aren't the focus of episodes. Episode IV of star wars was certainly a conceptual idea more than character focused, exploring the world and building it as you go. Old Disney like Snow White explored the concept of retelling a fairytale in animation.

I just think that unfortunately the focus of mainstream stories is not to explore a concept, or interesting characters, but to push a message.


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the funniest part is that older shows and movies still had deep messages even if the focus was on character or concept humans create media based on human experience there will always be a piece of the creator's personality; beliefs; culture; society; etc. that will slip into the art ultimately these little elements become meaning snow white may be focused on retelling a folk tale in another medium but it still has a message about remaining positive in times of hardship it may not have been the main focus but it managed to become an important part of the film without being forceful and it was certainly important to the people who watched it in cinemas. they were struggling with the effects of the great depression. themes and morals have typically been interwoven into storytelling in an organic way that's why when a show tries to shove a lesson or agenda in the viewer's faces regardless of whether the message is considered valuable or not it will always feel like the creators dont trust the audience to derive meaning from the media by themselves when you spoonfeed the message you take the joy out of engaging with the media and when spoonfeeding comes hand in hand with sacrificing elemwnts of cohesive storytelling then you're taking the “story” out of the “storytelling” and if the concern is with imparting more specific themes instead of general ones so many older stories do so without sacrificing other elements allegory for misogyny? handmaid's tale girlboss follow your dreams? legally blonde! ultimately storytelling cannot function if you focus on the message and consequently neglect other elements of the plot but there will always be a message organically woven into a story even if you focus on characters or concepts more and even if you don't prioritize the message at all
1 year ago

Also what the fuck was the im sorry dance. They really just did that and there was no further context. One of them said "do a silly little jig for my forgiveness" one day and they both just. Committed. What is wrong with them I wanna study them under a microscope

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