No One's Against Plurality Because Of Religion/spiritual Beliefs. I'm Not Against That, But That's Not

- Based on my last post

Well, I guess if endos also support transabled then if we say they're the same thing it doesn't affect them. Touche.

helpful article on why transrace isnt actually cool and is actively harmful

All traumagenic and disordered systems deserve more credit. You endos don't deserve shit.

You also think the term "sysmed" is fitting. Plurality isn't inherently medical, but only because of spirituality. Being a system is medical. It's a disorder caused by dissociation which is caused by trauma. Guess what? I'm also trans and have been harassed by transmeds, and it's not the same. Don't compare being trans, a thing anyone can experience, to people with trauma that happened before we had a fully developed fucking brain. Our trauma isn't comparable to gender, a fucking social construct that isn't real. Of course being trans isn't medical, because gender isn't technically real. Trauma and being a system isn't a social construct. We were abused.

Get your head out of your ass. 🥰

Friendly reminder that DID/OSDD does not equal sysmed. There are so many amazing DID and OSDD systems out there that are wonderful and supportive of all origins and they deserve more credit!!!

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No, they're not important. They make us look like a joke and are trying to demedicalize systems.

Non-disordered endogenic systems are so important to the plural community.

Plurality is such a subjective experience, and seeing so many systems with all sorts of differences sharing their experiences and resources and encouraging self acceptance is such a beautiful thing.

We personally have learned so much from endogenic non-disordered systems, which we may write about more later. We’re so grateful we found the inclusive plural community!

To all the non-disordered endogenic systems out there, we hope you have a good day/night!

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at this point im against any form of non-disorder plurality. does it exist? fuckin hell if i know. but being "plural" and having did/osdd is so intrinsically linked that the two cannot be separated. there are people who will have did/osdd and not realize, thinking its just "oh im just a non-disordered plural :)" and that's fuckin dangerous. people not getting treated for their disorders is dangerous and acting like its "fine" is pushing anti-recovery rhetoric. did/osdd is an ESPECIALLY dangerous disorder to not seek therapy for. with a 70% suicide rate and intense symptoms stemming from trauma it's something that NEEDS to be diagnosed. we NEED to be helped. we NEED therapy. and no this isn't me saying we need to reach final fusion, it's me saying we need to be functional and be able to recover with our disorder.

"oh but this harms non-disordered plurals !!!" how? how does it? give me one reason how it does. and either way i would rather the DISORDERED. the DISABLED. people be safe. yes. i put the safety of disordered people who have a high suicide risk higher than the safety of a 14 year old on the internet with a non-disordered "monsengenic" system or whatever the hell yall wanna call it. so yes. we should medicalize plurality because the safety of the mentally ill people comes first. if you disagree with that, then hate to break it to you but you're ableist/sanist.

Amazing point.

the sooner that people realise that "endogenic" (especially the ones who have claimed to "make their system on purpose") is just another word for "transabled" the better. like this is not REASONABLE </3 pro endo is not a reasonable stance in any way

my biggest bone to pick with pro-endos is that the majority of what i’ve seen them say when it comes to issues that they face pretty much all revolve around (mostly internet) invalidation and exclusion, to the point where i’ve seen some endos say that at least we (DIDOSDD anti-endos) are recognized as “the real ones” or like “well fakedisordercringe is laughing at all of us anyways you don’t look any better in their eyes” (the latter was a post semi recently in the syscourse tag and the former was an ask on the syscourse confessions blog). not trying to call out any particular person with this, just that it very clearly shows how unaligned the goals of pro-endos vs anti-endos are. and it blows my mind that they seem to think that not only being recognized as a DIDOSDD system is a GOOD thing, both online and offline, but that it means you’re immune from getting fakeclaimed harassed etc, or that it’s a good thing that FDC laughs at us too in the end. like, i don’t want to be “validated,” and being fakeclaimed over the internet is an annoyance to me at worst, and i don’t want to be unconditionally and radically accepted and included for everything because that leaves no room for me to potentially be wrong or grow as a person. and tbh this is why i think there’s no broader “plural” community because there’s a complete misalignment between the endo community vs the DIDOSDD community, and we as anti-endos know this by now because so many DIDOSDD systems have come out about how endo bullshit harmed them. sorry to dump a novel in your inbox lol it’s just been on my mind

Yep. they're also ignoring the fact that a lot of people who wind up on FDC are minors, who probably aren't safe being recognized as having DID/OSDD/UDD in their household, even if they have a therapist or have been professionally recognized. It doesn't make us feel valid, it just sucks. I've also had friends/mutuals from other platforms wind up on there, and the harassment they face is fucking horrific on a level you wouldn't believe, not to mention winding up on cringe comps just for being mentally ill on the internet. They don't see that people don't believe us. They don't believe that we exist, or they believe that we're too rare to be real. It's an uphill battle to get people to even listen to us, and it's exhausting.

Adding onto that, though, you're absolutely right. They want internet validation and inclusion, even if it excludes others. They can't seem to wrap their minds around the fact that being a system is so much more than just alters, so they build a community around one facet of the experience and push themselves into this anti-recovery mindset of "I don't need therapy, because my system isn't traumatic" even though having a system in of itself is only born out of trauma. Hell, a lot of them act like every psychiatrist/psychologist/therapist in the world is evil, so they surround themselves with the anti-psych community and ignore actual scientific facts about things that do, in fact, matter and need scientific backing.

I'm not saying the psych system is good. It's not. It sucks and needs major reform, and my personal experiences with it have been less than stellar. But that's no excuse to act like every professional who knows their shit is out to get you. There are good doctors out there. There are good, helpful people in this field who want nothing more than to see people thrive.

I also absolutely get your point. Blind inclusion and acceptance leaves no room to grow. It's not a foundation for lasting changes, and it actually behaves in quite the opposite manner. It makes it difficult for people to change when they realize what they're doing is wrong, because they've become comfortable just being accepted without any sort of questioning, or being asked to think about their stances. Not to mention, when all your friends are part of that situation, it makes it so much harder to leave.

Also, being diagnosed can lead you to getting more medical stigma in the future. I have BPD. I was not diagnosed by a former therapists choice, because if it was on my chart, that would make so many medical professionals treat me differently. It would make my life harder in the long run. But that doesn't mean that I think people shouldn't get diagnosed, quite the opposite. I just think that people need to be able to get the help that they need.

This is a tangent turning completely incomprehensible, but that's my thoughts. Thanks for the ask!!

If I see anyone with Transautism or other shit like that near me, imma smack u in the brain.