The Body (kind Of)

Got so angry that I forgot to add tags in the last reblog. Damn.

No one's against plurality because of religion/spiritual beliefs. I'm not against that, but that's not what the majority of "endogenics" are. Endos hide behind the fact that spirituality can play a role in plurality to call anti-endos racist/anti-religion, even if they aren't part of that spiritual practice. The problem anti-endos are talking about are people who say they're systems completely without trauma or anything else. They say they have chosen to be a system because of stress, neurodivergency, literally anything. That is not fucking possible. Plurality that forms without spiritual attachment can only be caused by trauma that happened before the age of seven. STFU and learn what we're talking about.

This isn't specifically targeted at the original poster or anon, but it's an important point I had to make.

Wanted to get ur perspective on this but, I think the reason why so many anti-endos are in fact anti endogenic bc they view being a system as being purely a medical diagnosis. So if ur looking at a spiritual system (like me for example uwu) through the lenses of what a medical system should look like then ofc that spiritual system isn't gonna appear valid. And yet when other systems who aren't medical systems say "hey, we only appear invalid to you bc ur viewing us through the wrong lenses, switch ur gaze homie" they absolutely REFUSE to view systems any other way bc their entire perception of systems is purely medical and they refuse the idea of systems existing in any other form bc they have such a tight grasp on this one perspective.

Definitely!

And I think some of this comes down to semantics, equating "system" with DID/OSDD while most of the plural community uses it as a catch-all term for all plural systems, and the actual psychologists have a completely different definition. It's not even a scientific disagreement but one over the definition of a word.

Although, I will remind people that when it is a scientific disagreement, anti-endos don't have any ground to stand on. Regarding spiritual systems specifically, there have been many studies on spiritual mediums and others experiencing possession that have shown different brain activity compared to people simply imagining. Scientists can't prove whether this is actually spiritual or just psychological, but the phenomenon is recognized as real in psychological communities in the way that it's not just people faking or pretending they have these experiences. Nor are these experiences considered mental illnesses or disorders, and they have little to no connection to trauma.

It's always good to remember that spiritual systems were the first types of plurals recognized by society.

I also want to add that being unable to view systems through different lenses can have a lot of harmful repercussions even among OSDD and DID systems. Plurality is a broad spectrum that encompasses a lot of different phenomena. The same way an OSDD system might have difficulty empathizing with a spiritual system, they might also have that same trouble with one that functions in ways that are different from their own. For example, a system who has no internal communication might disbelieve experiences of those who do. Or one with few headmates might not believe experiences of systems with hundreds of headmates. The same could be said of complex inner worlds or any number of other experiences.

Just a reminder to everyone that everybody experiences plurality in their own way, and that just because someone's experiences are different from your own doesn't mean they weren't actually experienced.

Cya <333 Great chat we had. ^^♡

I don't forgive my abusers either but I don't wish everyone who shares traits with them to be harmed <3

I understand it may be coping mechanisms but still.

Might aswell make an intro post since the old host is gone.

Hi, I’m Sunny. I use nya/nyas, he/him, meow/meows, mew/mews, purr/purrs and a bunch of other cat related neos. I’m a prosecutor, perpetrator, avenger and whatever other thing can describe me being fucking PISSED at what people did to us, and now i hurt people soooo.. If you dont like me, cool, i don’t fucking care. im mean. ill be making my own blog soon. oh but im nice to pro-endos and pro-tulpas! so hehe. other than that im mean to sysmeds and i want them to suffer. so yeah thats me, will be making a new blog of my own soon sooo if you like me then feel free to check it out when its done

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at this point im against any form of non-disorder plurality. does it exist? fuckin hell if i know. but being "plural" and having did/osdd is so intrinsically linked that the two cannot be separated. there are people who will have did/osdd and not realize, thinking its just "oh im just a non-disordered plural :)" and that's fuckin dangerous. people not getting treated for their disorders is dangerous and acting like its "fine" is pushing anti-recovery rhetoric. did/osdd is an ESPECIALLY dangerous disorder to not seek therapy for. with a 70% suicide rate and intense symptoms stemming from trauma it's something that NEEDS to be diagnosed. we NEED to be helped. we NEED therapy. and no this isn't me saying we need to reach final fusion, it's me saying we need to be functional and be able to recover with our disorder.

"oh but this harms non-disordered plurals !!!" how? how does it? give me one reason how it does. and either way i would rather the DISORDERED. the DISABLED. people be safe. yes. i put the safety of disordered people who have a high suicide risk higher than the safety of a 14 year old on the internet with a non-disordered "monsengenic" system or whatever the hell yall wanna call it. so yes. we should medicalize plurality because the safety of the mentally ill people comes first. if you disagree with that, then hate to break it to you but you're ableist/sanist.

They're the same thing. /nmay

I hate transabled people with fiery passion as much as I hate tulpas

Sup. I admire your opinions.

hii!!! could anti-endo blogs interact with this? :o we need more cool people to follow :) reblogs encouraged but not required!!! mass tagging this to get a lil traction. -kas

feel free to refer to our pinned post to learn more about us!!! /g

this goes without saying; endos DNI, endo neutrals DNI, pro endos DNI, yknow the drill

Just stepped inside the freezer because of aggressive intrusive thoughts.

Fucking love the new blog. Instant follow.

Just read "cappuccino syscourse" on a cappuccino supreme k cup

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Just realized my bipolar is showing