Don't get me wrong I didn't like the Rey Attack either I am just saying you can squint and explain where there is nothing that mitigates this one at all in my book. Yeah Finn’s backstory in no way calls for Comic Relief in my book. If they wanted this they never should have used Child Soldier background.
I keep thinking about how we were given the impression that Finn and Rose’s story would be a cool team up and that Rose would think he’s a Big Deal, but the storybook leaks basically give us a completely different dynamic, one where Rose drags an unwilling Finn around by the collar and scolds him for even trying to leave, and keeps him from leaving by force, and I hate that. I really hate that. It’s like the weak and questionable parts of Finn and Rey’s interaction before Harrison got injured and JJ reshot some stuff and changed their dynamic going forward because the antagonistic stuff wasn’t working. So why copypaste that bad dynamic that JJ already famously decided needed to be fixed? Actually make it worse? Bleh.
While I serve up shirtless scenes and plenty of good stuff for the Reylos and setup Kylo being redeemed because of the Love of a Women. This is fucking sickening if true. Racist and Sexist truly spectacular. Still we shouldnt be surprised RJ has shown in his career that he only cares about conflicted White Male.
I feel the same way reading these spoilers that I do when I saw Snyder rewarded with two more movies after Man of Steel? Is he blackmailing LF like I assumed Snyder was doing DC?
Still I don't want to hear one more line after KKK lying mouth about feminism and diversity. This movie deep sixed that hard to prop up her Crush, Adam Driver at the expense of her main Heroine, her supposed Male Lead, all the POC, the original Trio and fucking George Lucas.
Rian Johnson voice: I will let Finn wake up from coma screaming Rey’s name and make him ask where she is as his first and only question. Then I will show him the kiss she gave him on his forehead and he will decide to leave the Resistance to go and find her. But yay, then I will introduce his new love interest who will taser him until he’s unconscious bc she is against people leaving the Resistance. They will fight several times and then somehow it will be really cute. Also I will let them write into the visual dictionary that Finn feels something deeper for Rey hahaha
I honestly dont know how he does it...I can usually take a lot and remain calm but all this shit I go nuclear...however guys tomorrow at around 12:00 PM when the embargo lifts, I believe will all wish some whitewashed Finn Poe Art was our biggest complaint.
Y'all really sharing that ashy whitewashed finnpoe art pic from the premiere like it’s something to be proud of 🙄🙄
You can say that I agree but lets face it what is shown in the movies is not someone who has the top of their class in combat. The books don’t matter, heck I am not even sure RJ watched TFA or the OT. Finn got beat by Rey, got beat by TR-8R and beat Phasma cause she was looking the wrong direction. Beyond that while you could argue he showed impressive skills with blasters in TFA...RJ decided not to have him use a blaster at all in TLJ. So I can’t blame the audience forgetting the impression that he is not great at combat cause the movies have done nothing to dissuade that notion. Plus you know the scenes where he is most competent always seem to end up on the cutting room floor remarkable coincidence that is.
This is not to say racism doesn't play a roll at all.
can ppl like you stop acting like finn was just a janitor he literally wasn’t he was top of his class and well on his way to be an officer and only worked on sanitation bc that was part of his rotational as a cadet (like every cadet did it) so ofc he would be great at combat bc he was again top of his class
Well you see that be in character and this movie was all about making Luke look bad so Kylo could look good. But that begs question what was the explanation for how Luke couldn't sense Han Dying or an entire Solar System disappearing while hiding in a Force Nexus?
To be honest, the minute Luke learned that Kylo Ren killed Han Solo, he should have geared up and trained Rey and gotten to the Resistance pronto. The minute.
Got to love RJ we meet three orphans being exploited in Canto Bight with similar backstories to Finn want to guess who RJ decides to give the Force out of a White Girl, A White Boy and A Black Boy? The white boy of course as one last fuck you to Finn Fans. Good Old Broom Boy gets the Force but not a fucking lead nah Finn doesn't get shit. Some minor insignificant character is gets to move a broom with no training so really RJ gives Finn fans absolutely nothing of they want and rubs their faces in the dirt about it.
RJ: KEEP THE FORCE WHITE
The Good Place + Planetary Symbolism
Yeah Finn and Poe need to be selfless meanwhile Kylo is the most selfish mfer in the entire galaxy. They have to be saints while Kylo can be the Devil and still get all the love sickening.
The moc getting hit/stunned by women isn’t subversive. Moc already suffer violence from their bosses (the way Leia treats Poe) and from antiblack women (the way Rose treats Finn). It’s literally just unjustified violence. And painting both Finn and Poes characters as anything but brave and selfless is truly regressive to anything we know about their characters in TFA. It’s interesting that this supposed growth in TLJ includes being pushed into “selflessness” and “bravery” (it’s none of these things) only comes about from having violence enacted on them. Last I checked that’s not growth, that’s just victims adjusting to avoid abuse/violence.
True though I argue the main example of him being a racist is him doing everything possible to keep John Stewart down. Geoff strikes me as fine with POC characters as long as they stay in their place and don't challenge the white lead for dominance, popularity, etc...if they do well got to be destroyed.
Cass once vowed to and attempted to kill Deathstroke. She met Damien before her 52 reboot and looked after him and even saved him. Funny Cass has always believed people could change even people who killed or did terrible things. She fought them but never hated them. She had a sister who killed that she didn't hate. Maybe Cass fans should learn to be more like her and accept that she isn't filled with the hate they think she is.
As long as Jason doesn't change.
He's tried, and failed, several times already.
Which is why there is conflict inherent in their interactions.
It's not hate, true.
But it's sure as hell isn't tolerance or something she'd let slide.
Nor is it something she'd abide.
She'd work to stop them, convince them to stop.
So, as long as that's the status quo, it is logical for her to dunk on him pretty hard.
Continuously.
Great stuff basically RJ is lying bitch ass bastard. Finn basically has the same “arc” as last time just with less screen time and less plot relevance cause this time his actions are pointless. What he and Rose do on their adventure makes no difference, the only difference is this time Finn gets to beat Phasma. Poe has an irrelevant mutiny subplot that goes nowhere cause Holdo suicide rams her ship into the Supremacy proving she is good all along. Which changes nothing because it is all pointless as the Resistance is slaughtered until Rey, Finn, Poe, Leia and Rose are the only humans of note that remain. Rose ends in a coma saving Finn, how original RJ. Finn and Poe barely interact at all. But hey at least Poe meets Rey at the end. And guess what it ends with some random black kid (who you meet earlier for like a minute) showing the Force by pulling a Broom apparently. As an extra slap in the face I suppose to anyone who wanted Finn to have the Force. So yeah RJ shunts all the POC into worthless subplots that do not change or impact the plot at all. But basically goes look I am not racist this random black kid has the force who will never see again...wink wink. We get basically no Finn and Poe interaction or Finn, Poe, Rose and Rey interaction at all.
No wonder no one wants to talk about this stuff in the reviews. RJ put less then the bear minimum in this part of the plot. Not only is it a bad subplot nothing they do has any significant impact on the fucking plot. So basically all the diversity they patted them on the back for mostly consists of a fucking smokescreen cause they had to do something with the characters and couldn't fire them all. But dont kid yourself RJ doesn't give one solitary shit about them.
But hey he put the focus on a conflicted white male “bad boy”, had Rey swoon over his abs and character assassinated Luke Skywalker so greatest star wars movie since Empire.
LIES I SAY LIES....BOTS...TROLLS...THERE IS NO FIRE TLJ >>> ESB
It doesn't mean anything Jumanji has bankable stars and thus no one could expect TLJ to win in its 4th week, you know despite LF forcing theatres into draconian rules.
Ah ha ha ha ha