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10 Problems With Finn

As a Finn Fan I cant think of one thing on a list that he got that a Finn fan would want. 1) Force Sensitive? No, Random White Broom Boi gets it. Anyone can have the force isn't it so hopeful. Yeah anyone who is white. 2) Less Comedic Relief? Fuck That Endless Comic Relief 3) Actual Character Development? Hell No lets reset him and repeat. 4) An Arc? Nope nothing he does matters and Rose is Rey but worse now she gives life lessons and she is not the lead. So he is in the B-Plot Now. 5) Can he hang out with Poe? Nope we are killing FinnPoe while Finn and Poe barely interact 6) FinnRey? Not only will they be separated the whole movie while she gets wet over Kylo, they get no fucking lines when they meet each other again 7) Well he was pretty good with a blaster some of that? Nope, he will never use a blaster at all in this movie. So much for commando or hawkeye. 8) A satisfying conclusion to the Phasma fight? Nope no emotional heft between them and he wins due to luck. Books Dont matter 9) Interaction with the Luke or Leia? Hahahaha Hell No. 10) Well shit if you are not going to do anything with him how about a Heroic Death? Hell No, also let me kneecap FinnRey. Also come on Rose sometimes you gotta save the ones you love by killing the people actively trying to kill you. I am sure I could do another 10 but that summarizes Finn pretty well. Not that I wanted a Heroic Death or anything.

Sure but can you really have a good story and ending for Finn and Poe when the man who helped ruin their lives. Poe’s by destroying pretty much everyone who ever knew and torturing him. Finn’s by backing the organization that loves child slaves and putting him in a coma. Gets a happy ending and rides off into the sunset? I mean really I am sorry there is no way they come out of that looking like anything but spineless ******. There is no good story ending to my mind for Finn, Poe or Rose that ends with Kylo Alive.

Abrams had the actors who tried out for Kylo read the scene from Pride and Prejudice read the part where Darcy tells Elizabeth he's decided to marry her even though her family is shitty and poor, and she rejects him for it. This makes me dread that he's complicit in this, since Elizabeth eventually marries Darcy anyway.

so uhh i dont think ive heard this before but if its true… i dont really care. my biggest concern isnt making sure reylo doesnt happen… i just want finn (and poe) to get good storylines. i want finns past to be explored, for finn to go through some angst, for finn to have his fs abilities explored, for poe to grow as a leader, etc. i really dont care about reylo but if it makes you feel better i dont think jj would make reylo canon. he made kylo join the space nazis and jj is a jewish man so i cant see him going for a redeemed kylo at all. 

Finn (John Boyega) is even more underdeveloped, and “The Last Jedi” saddles him with a plot that has literally no impact on the actual course of the movie and provides him with no discernible character development: The whole thing could have been excised from the film, and the only difference would have been a zippier run time, a smaller special-effects budget and a tighter story.

they. sidelined. finn. (via paige-tic0)

Trust me he is still a lead said the lying bitch RJ. He sidelined him with comic relief bs while having Rey fantasize about Kylo and then tried to toss Rose at Finn to kill FinnRey. Look I dont have a problem with FinnRose in the abstract since but its clear the only reason Rose is here is to help make sure Finn fans dont get anything they want. No Force Powers (he has a random kid show powers as one last fuck you to Finn Fans). No Arc (despite lying about it). And Rose is there to try to make us forget about Rey so he can cram Reylo down our throats not for any progressive reason or because the relationship has real value. RJ went in the goal to emasculate Finn and Poe and prop up Kylo.

Basically it just feels because RJ was willing to dickride Kylo Ren and Adam Driver so hard who we know KK loves since Adam didn't even have to audition. RJ got himself Carte Blanche to do whatever he want. I mean JJ is the one who wanted John (and his execution was poor), KK never wanted John at all. So I am not all surprised and what is going down for FInn. Although I should note this is the fucking opposite of how they sold us Finn and Rose in the lead up. Where Rose was a big Fan  of Finn. Instead it seems will get another does of a Female Partner outshining Finn until Phasma. 

What does surprise me though is KK letting RJ making massive lore changes and retcons to the Force that override fucking George Lucas in the Luke Skywalker part of the plot. That is what surprises me. I knew it was bad sign when RJ got along with KK so well unlike all the other directors and got a new trilogy.

But apparently RJ is genius for Woobyifying another “Bad Boy“ White Male while marginalizing the POC to forgettable plot line and comic relief. Its not like we never seen this shit before. I get enough of the kid glove treatment for white monsters in the news thank you very much.

This doesn’t even make any sense story wise. Every Resistance member knows that Finn risked his life to stop Starkiller Base. Rose suddenly being “what, a traitor” makes zero fucking sense. If Finn wanted to betray the Resistance he would have done nothing and just let the FO blow them out of the sky.

Rian Johnson is willfully stupid when it comes to any of the characters of color but especially to Finn. Of course it makes no sense! But of course he doesn’t care because he’s too busy using his 2 brain cells on creating a fascist-loving white story for his lily white actors! It makes no sense because he doesn’t give a fuck about Finn.

I don't even understand why they do it. Books don’t trump the movies...the only way to fix this mess is to simply go full on elseworld where this sequel takes place outside the Prime Universe. They cant retcon the trilogy via a book. I mean they cant just say it was all a dream or some bs. And fixing the problems requires a whole lot of work.

myrish-lace-love replied to your link: “Crazy Rumor Says Disney Is Fixing Star Wars: The Last Jedi”:

Could there be a clearer indication of bad movie making? I need a compendium to understand it? Put it on the damn screen in the first place.

Brick Brain Johnson probably thinks it’s a sign of how endlessly deep his incredible unbelievable masterpiece is…

No Finn, No Poe, Only A Little Rose from what I seen on twitter....RJ is Genius though apparently for putting the focus on the White Male Mass Murderer and making the Force White Only while dumping all the POC in the irrelevant B-Plot that doesn't even deserve mention by almost all the critics. Consider me unimpressed. 

There’s been jackshit about Finn other than him killing phasma. Spoilers my ass.

Pretty Much JJ is iffy honestly the biggest problems were Finn lacked in skills compared to Rey. Rey was overloaded She has the Force, She can fight (Finn should be better here) in Martial Arts, She can fly, she is mechanic and she is multilingual. Spread the love out I wanted them both to have the force so let him be a pilot or a mechanic. Beyond that problems are Poe naming (iffy), animal through (remove the animal), Rey/BB-8 tazing Finn (again Finn should win here), Rathars capture (delete all this), Chewie (remove), losing to TR-8R (no put Phasma here). But Finn basically drove the plot and was a clear lead so plus points for that. 

RJ though just no Finn is treated with no respect from the jump because RJ didn't want to do payoff for Finn and wanted to suck Kylo’s Dick. He wakes up banging his head, running around leaking water like a fool and then getting tazed by Rose? This is how you treat a Hero of the Resistance? Really RJ? Then he goes on a worthless side plot where Rose takes the lead and treats him like a child? Where the fail essentially over a parking violation? Gets tased again and they trust DJ who is just waiting for them? The Phasma fight had nothing to it emotionally or physically. And the crait stuff...I didn't want him to die but even so Rose stopping him makes no sense and her lines so cringy considering her sister and Holdo. 

seguun replied to your post: “The difference between JJ and RJ is the following: some of the things…”:

Eh I argue about JJ just making mistakes…the difference is more RJ double down hard even after the Finn stuff got criticism so he doesn’t get an excuse at all.

Yeah, JJ made mistakes…. RJ didn’t give a single fuck…

They are making Rey pathetic. Oh he feels so bad did she forget what happens after he kills his father? Instead of curling up into a ball or going to find medical treatment after Chewie shoots him or going to stop the Starkiller from killing his mother. He decides to try to drag Rey  before Snoke causing a scuffle that results in her supposed BFF going into a fucking coma and also includes throwing her into a tree.

But because Luke tried to kill him for being evil (ignore the character assassination)? That justifies killing Han. Killing Lor San Tekka, Slaughtering a bunch of villages and joining a fascist regime that loves child soldiers and destroying solar system, and killing all the resistance.

I am sorry wanting to bang a girl cause you think she is hot and you can make super babies does not make someone good or conflicted. Plenty of serial killers have had families and been upstanding members of their communities.

Star Wars, Now An Alt Right Wet Dream. I mean sheesh Wonder Woman believes in Love and Compassion didn't mean she was getting the hots for Ares instead of taking care of business by putting him 6 feet under.

the spoilers have been confirmed from MULTIPLE PEOPLE at press screenings today. I understand why people don’t want to believe anything until they see the film but it is what it is

There was no way it wasn’t going to be Luke’s Fault. However, my problem is Luke failed twice. It his fault that Kylo goes dark to some extent which I can accept to a degree but I cannot accept that on top of that Luke does nothing to clean up the mess. He goes off to a random planet and sits around doing zilch while Kylo and Snoke rekt face. The same Snoke that goes down to Kylo fresh off a loss to an untrained Rey and Rey who has lets be generous? How much time do you think Rey has known she has the Force, 3 weeks assuming some time skips? 

So an Akira style ending doesn't do shit for me to redeem Luke because really Luke should have been more then powerful to mop up Snoke and Kylo himself. He is only 50 or so Mace was about the same age when he threw down with Palpatine so don't give me he was too old like Kenobi and Yoda. Yoda also at least tried against Palpatine before running for the hills and Kenobi thought he had finished Anakin. Instead, we have zero indication that Luke tried to stop Kyo and Snoke at all until he goes godlike at the end. Which doesnt make up for what 5 plus years of not doing shit...

And thus there is no hope the Last Skywalker has killed not just 2/3rds of his family but the entire dream of a New Republic and New Jedi Order as well. And you know what is worse? A large swath of the fandom will still want him to get redeemed (Not Vader), a full on happy ending making super force babies with Rey.

I feel bad for George Lucas quite frankly. They are even retconning the Chosen One Prophecy and making fundamental changes to the Force. Who the fuck do KK a supposed friend of George and RJ think they are?

So basically: The Force Awakens was "Han's movie" and he died. The Last Jedi is Luke's movie and apparently he dies. Episode IX would be Leia's movie and she would be die?

Hi Anon,

Well, it certainly looks that way, doesn’t it?

George’s original idea, as I have read, was that Luke, Han and Leia would be supporting the main players, who were their kids. (or at least Han and Leia’s - I’m not sure I’ve read what Luke was doing in all this but….)

Then JJ arrived, threw out pretty much everything, and decided that Luke, Han and Leia should get a “fitting sendoff.”

Now, if you can explain to me how breaking up Han and Leia’s marriage, making their only child a Dark Sider, destroying Luke’s school and sending him off to be a hermit, then killing Han for nothing is a “fitting sendoff” then I think you should write Episode 9.

Because, yes, it looks now that Han dies in 8 for no damn good reason at all other than it’s the third act of a New Hope reboot and he’s oldest male lead so he goes down (or he’s “sexy luggage” according to JJ.). Because, and I stg I read this from some fan review, “Han and Leia should be crucified because of Kylo.” 

Yeah, so, there’s that.

I guess Luke will be blamed for Kylo - Mark is quoted in this week’s print Entertainment Weekly that there will be flashbacks and that the movie deals with the fallout of Luke thinking Kylo is the Chosen One. Which why tf Luke would even know the prophecy or care or NOT THINK IT’S HIS DAD when I’m sure Obi Wan would have told him is beyond me.

I would hope that Leia would have gotten a kinder fate in 9, but considering murder by your own child after your life is destroyed is called a “fitting sendoff” then I doubt it.

I don’t know, Anon. I mean, okay, they could have killed Luke, Han and Leia. I would not have been surprised.

But they could have left them together. Have them go out together, taking on the First Order so that Rey and Finn and Poe could win the day. 

What if Luke does live till 9? What’s he got? Han’s dead, Leia’s dead, his whole life in ruins…yeah. 

Thanks, Anon

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