There Was No Way It Wasn’t Going To Be Luke’s Fault. However, My Problem Is Luke Failed Twice. It

I am annoyed how they always crap on the PT Jedi yes they screwed up in the end but they kept it together for 1000 Generations or 20,000 years or so that is pretty good record. Luke couldn't even make it to 20. 

But yeah the idea Luke would totally copy the Old Jedi Order and make no changes is just weird. 

Why do people believe that Luke’s Jedi Order would be the exact same as the Old Jedi Order?

True though I argue the main example of him being a racist is him doing everything possible to keep John Stewart down. Geoff strikes me as fine with POC characters as long as they stay in their place and don't challenge the white lead for dominance, popularity, etc...if they do well got to be destroyed. 

Cass once vowed to and attempted to kill Deathstroke. She met Damien before her 52 reboot and looked after him and even saved him. Funny Cass has always believed people could change even people who killed or did terrible things. She fought them but never hated them. She had a sister who killed that she didn't hate. Maybe Cass fans should learn to be more like her and accept that she isn't filled with the hate they think she is.

As long as Jason doesn't change.

He's tried, and failed, several times already.

Which is why there is conflict inherent in their interactions.

It's not hate, true.

But it's sure as hell isn't tolerance or something she'd let slide.

Nor is it something she'd abide.

She'd work to stop them, convince them to stop.

So, as long as that's the status quo, it is logical for her to dunk on him pretty hard.

Continuously.

Young Avengers CC 9

2:00 AM, that is real dedication.

Well you see that be in character and this movie was all about making Luke look bad so Kylo could look good. But that begs question what was the explanation for how Luke couldn't sense Han Dying or an entire Solar System disappearing while hiding in a Force Nexus?

To be honest, the minute Luke learned that Kylo Ren killed Han Solo, he should have geared up and trained Rey and gotten to the Resistance pronto. The minute. 

10 Problems With Finn

As a Finn Fan I cant think of one thing on a list that he got that a Finn fan would want. 1) Force Sensitive? No, Random White Broom Boi gets it. Anyone can have the force isn't it so hopeful. Yeah anyone who is white. 2) Less Comedic Relief? Fuck That Endless Comic Relief 3) Actual Character Development? Hell No lets reset him and repeat. 4) An Arc? Nope nothing he does matters and Rose is Rey but worse now she gives life lessons and she is not the lead. So he is in the B-Plot Now. 5) Can he hang out with Poe? Nope we are killing FinnPoe while Finn and Poe barely interact 6) FinnRey? Not only will they be separated the whole movie while she gets wet over Kylo, they get no fucking lines when they meet each other again 7) Well he was pretty good with a blaster some of that? Nope, he will never use a blaster at all in this movie. So much for commando or hawkeye. 8) A satisfying conclusion to the Phasma fight? Nope no emotional heft between them and he wins due to luck. Books Dont matter 9) Interaction with the Luke or Leia? Hahahaha Hell No. 10) Well shit if you are not going to do anything with him how about a Heroic Death? Hell No, also let me kneecap FinnRey. Also come on Rose sometimes you gotta save the ones you love by killing the people actively trying to kill you. I am sure I could do another 10 but that summarizes Finn pretty well. Not that I wanted a Heroic Death or anything.

They are making Rey pathetic. Oh he feels so bad did she forget what happens after he kills his father? Instead of curling up into a ball or going to find medical treatment after Chewie shoots him or going to stop the Starkiller from killing his mother. He decides to try to drag Rey  before Snoke causing a scuffle that results in her supposed BFF going into a fucking coma and also includes throwing her into a tree.

But because Luke tried to kill him for being evil (ignore the character assassination)? That justifies killing Han. Killing Lor San Tekka, Slaughtering a bunch of villages and joining a fascist regime that loves child soldiers and destroying solar system, and killing all the resistance.

I am sorry wanting to bang a girl cause you think she is hot and you can make super babies does not make someone good or conflicted. Plenty of serial killers have had families and been upstanding members of their communities.

Star Wars, Now An Alt Right Wet Dream. I mean sheesh Wonder Woman believes in Love and Compassion didn't mean she was getting the hots for Ares instead of taking care of business by putting him 6 feet under.

the spoilers have been confirmed from MULTIPLE PEOPLE at press screenings today. I understand why people don’t want to believe anything until they see the film but it is what it is

Sure but can you really have a good story and ending for Finn and Poe when the man who helped ruin their lives. Poe’s by destroying pretty much everyone who ever knew and torturing him. Finn’s by backing the organization that loves child slaves and putting him in a coma. Gets a happy ending and rides off into the sunset? I mean really I am sorry there is no way they come out of that looking like anything but spineless ******. There is no good story ending to my mind for Finn, Poe or Rose that ends with Kylo Alive.

Abrams had the actors who tried out for Kylo read the scene from Pride and Prejudice read the part where Darcy tells Elizabeth he's decided to marry her even though her family is shitty and poor, and she rejects him for it. This makes me dread that he's complicit in this, since Elizabeth eventually marries Darcy anyway.

so uhh i dont think ive heard this before but if its true… i dont really care. my biggest concern isnt making sure reylo doesnt happen… i just want finn (and poe) to get good storylines. i want finns past to be explored, for finn to go through some angst, for finn to have his fs abilities explored, for poe to grow as a leader, etc. i really dont care about reylo but if it makes you feel better i dont think jj would make reylo canon. he made kylo join the space nazis and jj is a jewish man so i cant see him going for a redeemed kylo at all. 

I second this just tough it out people. I already saw a Spanish version linked online so if you can understand Spanish you can watch that everyone else can just wait a few days and torrent it.

ill say if ur like me and havent watched the movie and are on the fence about watching it even tho ur thinking “ya i hate it but i miss finn and poe”… i get you, i understand you, but please try and not watch it. you know at the end of the day what hurts disney is their bottom line (and their reputation but less so). at the very least tell ur friends and family who are casual (or not at all) fans of star wars to not see the movie. dont buy their merch. dont support them at all. we want them to know that no one liked this film. no one was interested in watching this racist bs and the only language they speak is $$$ so hit them where it hurts. 

Yeah it was bad in TFA but this is worst not just because now they should know it was bad idea but also cause were once again lied to do about Finn with the dynamic described to us in marketing not existing in the actual movie. Beyond that also at least you can make the case Rey had a reason to attack Finn, Rose has no such Reason and Rose goes a step further by shocking Finn until he falls Unconscious after just getting off the medical bay. The fact that it will be played for laughs makes my blood boil. 

I keep thinking about how we were given the impression that Finn and Rose’s story would be a cool team up and that Rose would think he’s a Big Deal, but the storybook leaks basically give us a completely different dynamic, one where Rose drags an unwilling Finn around by the collar and scolds him for even trying to leave, and keeps him from leaving by force, and I hate that. I really hate that. It’s like the weak and questionable parts of Finn and Rey’s interaction before Harrison got injured and JJ reshot some stuff and changed their dynamic going forward because the antagonistic stuff wasn’t working. So why copypaste that bad dynamic that JJ already famously decided needed to be fixed? Actually make it worse? Bleh.

For a second, I didn't realize you were sarcastic.

what a beautiful day to hate rian johnson for destroying the skywalker legacy for literally no reason