Yeah It Was Bad In TFA But This Is Worst Not Just Because Now They Should Know It Was Bad Idea But Also

It fails on every possible level.

And apparently the Force tree and its contents aren’t explained either 😂😂😂

Honestly seems like we are getting Twilight Fan Fiction. Yeah sure Kylo may have saved Rey when they took out Snoke but considering Kylo only did that for a power grab that doesn't scream redemption to me. Especially if Kylo wanted redemption all he has to do after killing Snoke is immediately change First Order Policies by freeing child soldiers, dismantling super weapons, etc. But they are the two main hetero white characters so of course they should bang. This type of romance plot only works if A) the bad boy isn't actually the monster everyone says he is or B) the character at least had a relationship in the past before one of turned into a monster. It does not work when said girl meets said guy after knowing he is monster and seeing him kill his father/her mentor in cold blood and almost kill her supposed Best Friend. 

Honestly this all boils down to the problem with Rey Random. Ignore her unique raw force power. Rey has no connection to the plot if BB-8 didn't just will of the force its way right into her. She is not resistance/rebellion, she is not first order/empire, she is not related to anyone important or has any reason to care about getting involved in the plot except being Super Powerful in the Force for reasons. She is anchorless and totally unconnected her only connection is being the lead. Han is Dead. Luke is Dead and because of the sad passing of Fisher, she wont be around as Leia. So we have if the spoilers are true, the cast of Rey, Finn, Rose, Poe, Chewie, the Droids and maybe a few extras all fleeing on the Falcon with the rest of the Resistance Obliterated and Kylo ruling the galaxy. Now besides Rey who apparently has the hots for Kylo why would the rest of the characters with everyone they know dead give one **** about saving Kylo’s soul. It doesn't logically compute. Ergo the tension is massively undercut either Rey is the worst heroine I have ever seen where she is conflicted as the New Empire oppress the galaxy and picks off her supposed friends or she commits to killing Kylo pissed that he tricked her. Kylo v Rey is just not compelling like Vader v Luke or Kenobi v Anakin because their connection is finding each other attractive for like a week and being super special force unicorns. 

Its like RJ basically ignored TFA for the most part and just used it as rough outlines for character backgrounds. But even saying that I could easily throw in a few retcons that give Rey Random a reason to care about Kylo beyond he is “hot“ and saved me once and I hate Reylo. Just have Rey be a fellow student at the Jedi Academy that Kylo was close to and thus when he turned couldn't bring himself to kill. So he paid some fake parents to dump her on a backwater and somehow wiped her memory or maybe she suffered some memory loss from injuries during the attack. It even fits in with TFA lines like “What Girl“ and “It is You“ that are unexplained. There still Rey Random and gave her a decent reason to care about Kylo and feel some conflict. 

People who don’t get how Rey being the daughter of two junk dealers who abandoned her for money and who thus most likely won’t play any role in the future is unsatisfying writing haven’t understood a single thing about how you construct a plot. The way this was built up Rey random is only satisfying IF her parents are relevant to the plot, even as new characters. Otherwise there was literally no point keeping this a secret, bc it leaves us exactly with what we know from TFA. It adds nothing. Rey already saw herself as noone and figured out whoever left her on Jakku won’t be coming back. Furthermore: If you come up with the idea to construct a character with a unique raw Force power, and decide this character’s power will match the power of Darth Vader’s grandson, there must be a reason for it in the plot. You can’t just go “well, this is just how it is, it’s coincidence” This is unsatisfying and like someone didn’t even try. It’s lazy. 

Perhaps Complex is the wrong word...its more Confusing. 

But we have all read the Chinese Complaints and they are Cast isn't Hot Enough Compared To MCU, Fight Scenes Were Lame Compared to Wuxia and What You Get in Anime (High Standards for Sword Fights), Continuity Not User Friendly (They didn't get the old movies) and Plot was boring and confusing with the First Order not competent enough. 

Short Answer: KK needs copy Feige’s Notes. 

1) The First I am not really going to comment on if the actors are attractive enough too much but I would have to agree in general....Lupita you don't see and Oscar is the only one he pretty universally be considered super hot. 

2) Hard to argue the fights aren't lame. Sorry Driver and Ridley just aren't that good and Boyega and Christie got nothing to work with since they got 30 seconds. The Force users didn't look Superhuman enough, I know they don't want to do Prequel twirling but times have changed and standards have gone up. 

3) Hard to argue with this one but you cant really fix it super easily if you want to do Skywalker Saga Films this close to the OT. 

4) The biggest sin is this...150 mins is long for an American Audience...its even worse for an audience who has to read subs. Beyond that it was boring for most of that time...reminds me of BvS too long without quality fight scenes. 

The positive here is Disney cannot ignore RJ and KK failing to secure Chinese Box Office so even if the movie makes 1.3-1.4 Billion. This is a major strike that probably sinks RJ trilogy alone and weakens KK. 

All the articles I've read on tlj underperforming in China bend over backwards trying to find an explanation that isn't "tlj sucks and Chinese people have standards". Like, they go 'Oh, Star Wars was never that big there! The OT never got a theatrical release!' but... tfa and ro both did, and got better results... if anything, tlj should have had more success, after them! They need better excuses (or to start MAYBE questioning why so many people didn't like it a bit more)

Also I’m sad about how articles even from usually good sites (eg Vox, which is the one I just read) pull the ‘fans just didn’t want complexity and new things!’ card while also criticizing Poe (“That f’ing guy”, “a 360-degree disaster”, blaming him for the near-destruction of the resistance…) and praising its feminist themes and how Poe should have listened to Holdo & Leia… (“Again and again, women try to set [Poe] straight, but he ignores or defies them”. UMM *white women) (½)

(2/2) … and just, completely missing the point! Like, in that article, Holdo & Leia creeping onto Poe is, apparently, “regarding Poe fondly” and Poe not facing the consequences. …I would also talk about Finn, but he was barely even mentioned (really goes to show how much he is the “male lead” under rian “kylo” johnson), and only in the context of “Finn and Rose […] played a direct role in the death of thousands of their fellow Rebels”. AND THE WRITER IS STILL NOT GETTING IT. smh …

These people are so far up Disney’s and Johnson’s asses that they can’t see or choose to ignore how awful and nonsensical the writing is, and how bad the movie is as a result. A 150 minute runtime for an action adventure flick is already quite a lot to ask of the audience, but to make it a rambling, meandering bore? Especially while opening in countries where you can’t rely on the SW brand to draw audiences? What level of entitlement does it take to think SW is owed viewers while putting out crappy and boring product, and that if people don’t see it in the projected numbers they’re in the wrong and don’t have the requisite intelligence to appreciate Johnson’s genius?

I’m also loving the way the white feminists are crawling out of the woodwork screaming about how revolutionary it is that white women are humiliating and brutalizing men of color in completely OOC and contrived scenarios. I see what their “feminism” is about and it ain’t pretty.

I am not sure but I am sure Emilia Clarke will be far more important then she has any right to be....by butting into Han and Lando and Han and Chewie...We dont need her but KK.

Solo: A Star Wars Story

Solo is set for release in May. Which means Disney’s latest two Star Wars films will be just six months apart, further exhausting the brand to the point where there will soon be nothing special about anything “Star Wars” that they dump into theaters.

Movies like this one are exciting because they give Disney/Lucasfilm/Knnedy the chance to destroy Star Wars’ past the same way they already destroyed Star Wars’ future!

Man, I can’t wait to see if they can retroactively wreck Han Solo’s entire character in his younger years.

It reminds you of that famous parable...First the Game for the Black Guy and I was not a Black Person so I said nothing. Then they came for the Latino Guy and I was not Latin@ so I said nothing. Then they came for the White Girl, and there was no one left to speak up for me.

Still I admire KK and LF what a double bait and switch...from First Black Jedi lead to red herring for First White Female Lead to nah this is story about A White Sith with the first White Female lead as the battered gf. Classic.

lmfao but ill say one thing thats making me laugh a lot is that all the white feminists got screwed over. rey stans are BIG MAD HAHAHAHAHA. yall been helping sideline finn from the start and derailing all our posts to be about ur white girl and now its ur time to suffer cry lil babies CRY!!! 

Lol even the US never got that bad. Separate Roads. Not sure about South Africa or Australia.

On Israel’s system of segregated roads in the occupied Palestinian territories

Source: http://visualizingpalestine.org/infographic/segregated-roads-west-bank

Finn (John Boyega) is even more underdeveloped, and “The Last Jedi” saddles him with a plot that has literally no impact on the actual course of the movie and provides him with no discernible character development: The whole thing could have been excised from the film, and the only difference would have been a zippier run time, a smaller special-effects budget and a tighter story.

they. sidelined. finn. (via paige-tic0)

Trust me he is still a lead said the lying bitch RJ. He sidelined him with comic relief bs while having Rey fantasize about Kylo and then tried to toss Rose at Finn to kill FinnRey. Look I dont have a problem with FinnRose in the abstract since but its clear the only reason Rose is here is to help make sure Finn fans dont get anything they want. No Force Powers (he has a random kid show powers as one last fuck you to Finn Fans). No Arc (despite lying about it). And Rose is there to try to make us forget about Rey so he can cram Reylo down our throats not for any progressive reason or because the relationship has real value. RJ went in the goal to emasculate Finn and Poe and prop up Kylo.

To be fair JJ will never have more power against KK. He brought in 2 Billion which is all the hireups care about and KK cannot afford to fire yet another director. So we shall see how he wants to use his power.

However, I have no doubt KK loves Reylo because she loves Adam Driver for some reason and her white British brunette self inserts. In contrast, and I am not joking I cant not honestly remember KK say one positive thing about Finn (John Boyega), Poe Dameron (Oscar Issacs) or Rose Tico (Kelly Marie Tran).

As for the other stuff, I havent read Finn and Rose getting together. I have read stuff that Finn once again got saddled with comic relief, the arc wasnt that great and that John Boyega once again had to elevate shitty material.

I have a feeling JJ is just gonna undo stuff anyway. Rose allegedly according to New spoilers ends up Finn’s girlfriend at the end and Rey apparently is conflicted about Kylo. I can’t see JJ continuing those threads. I also think Rey will turn out not to be so random.

Maybe. We’ll see. I doubt that they’re as divided as all that, especially since Kathleen Kennedy has final say on everything and loves Rian’s work so much she’s giving him the keys to the castle, so to speak. But I don’t intend to spend the next two years theorizing about what JJ/KK are gonna do. (Of course I didn’t intend to get so wrapped up in TLJ speculation either and we can all see how that turned out. I should delete my entire backlog and drink to forget).

All must be sacrificed for Kylo Ren.

tlj is nothing short of character assassination for almost every single character.

I felt sympathy for Anakin but he still needed to die. The problem is why should I feel empathy for Kylo besides him being a SkySolo and a White Male? There is no other good reason. He grew up Rich with the Force and his biggest issues were his parents worked and his uncle didn't tell him about Darth Vader? Rey grew up sold into shit conditions on a desert backwater. Finn and millions of other as Child Soldiers ripped from their parents. Rose apparently lost her parents and her sister. And I am suppose to feel bad for Kylo. No there is no redemption strong enough. At least Anakin was a slave, who wanted to save his wife and kids and snapped after watching his mother die.

I always have to laugh when I see posts like “when Reylo becomes canon, then all of the antis will see the error of their ways.”

Because that will seriously never happen.  I’m not going to say that it’s completely impossible for someone to write a redemption arc that is SO powerful that it wins me over.  But the odds are seriously against it.

And honestly, even if they did somehow successfully redeem Kylo Ren to my satisfaction, I STILL wouldn’t be happy seeing him paired with one of his victims.

Most likely, even if LucasFilms does make the incredibly ghastly mistake of making Reylo canon, I will go to my grave screaming about all of the deaths at Kylo Ren’s hands..

I still haven’t shut up about Grimm pairing their lead character with a serial rapist.  I’m not going to shut up about this either.

Canon isn’t a cure-all for a fucked up ship.