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I did this a couple months ago but I thought it would be fun to draw sora riku and kairi in cloud tifa and aerith’s dresses.
Sora in one of Cloud’s purple dresses
Riku in Tifa’s sporty dress
And kairi in aerith’s pink dress
Here all of them side by side
Bonus: soriku and cloti
NEW EPISODE OUT NOW!!!!
The let play continues!
ffvii time travel au where cloud and tifa got married and the dynamic is this:
cloud, sighing: I miss my wife, zack. I miss her a lot. I gotta go, I’ll be back soon.
“cloud… words aren’t the only thing that tell people what you’re thinking…”
what is love? can the child in my heart rise above?
(tifa & cloud, ff7)
I don’t know how many times I have to say this BUT folks I PROMISE YOU WILL ENJOY THE FINAL FANTASY 7 EXPERIENCE MORE WHEN YOU ACCEPT THE EXISTENCE OF THE VERY OBVIOUS LOVE TRIANGLE.
This is more so directed towards newer fans but girlies, the love triangle in that game is literally the video game equivalent of the rei vs asuka debate in anime.
Life is so much easier when you play or experience the game for what it is. I get that many of you identify with the characters, but god are there more important things to focus on 😭
Anyways, best of luck with the Rufus fight!
Rebirth Date Spoilers part 2
Oh my gosh I can’t believe I made a post complaining about both sides cherry picking lines to support their ship and now that comment section is filled with people from both sides cherry picking lines AAAAAAAAA
COMPLAINING ABOUT IT DOESN’T MAKE IT GO AWAY REGARDLESS BECAUSE PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES WILL REITERATE THAT THEY THINK THEIR OPINION IS CORRECT IN A POST WHERE IM COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM
I’m not on anyone’s side!!! I literally got so annoyed that I got Yuffie as my date because I had a feeling that something would happen during either Aerith or Tifa’s dates.
BOTH CLOTIS AND CLERITHS: There is a love triangle! Stop trying to deny it because it’s very annoying. People just want to enjoy the golden saucer dates and honestly the last three chapters of rebirth without people cherry picking lines.
This game is a giant analogy for renewable resources and late stage capitalism but all the discussion outside gameplay or the multiverse has been about ships!
People can’t enjoy random things like character dialogue, story beats and side quests unless it has to do something with the two main DOUBLE heroines and love interests.
Rebirth Date Spoilers
Yall if you got the Tifa date in chapter 12 - you’re gonna be pissed about what happens in chapter 13 and 14.
On a serious note, people have been so disingenuous about the Aerith vs Tifa dates. Both sides cherry picked specific lines from their respective date scenes to prove one side over another. When you look at the whole thing, it’s more complicated than that.
Additionally, if you’re purposefully rude to one girl during your gameplay because you hate the character, then I don’t think the outcome you got was the “intended” canon.
Cloud likes both girls and no, he wouldn’t treat one girl worse than the other “canonically” - you the player made it that way. The outcome that you got from doing that is what you wanted and that’s fine because it’s your play through of it - but it doesn’t mean it’s “canon” or else you will be so surprised in the last two chapters when Cloud gets a lot of screen time with one girl over the other.
I don’t mean this as just a dig at Tifa fans but I think her fans are more aggressive than Aerith fans, just from some peoples reactions to chapters 13 and 14.
cloti wedding~
IASF | EXPLORE THE PASSION - NYC 😜
I want to express just a quick and superficial thought about the impact of Zack on SOLDIER-Cloud's personality since I've recently had a discussion about it.
Some months ago I stated that in this scene (not only here btw)...
... Cloud is mimicking Zack's attitude.
The person I was discussing with mentioned the quote from the Ultimania according to which "Cloud puts up a cool facade with Aerith and shows his real self when he's with Tifa", so what I had written had to be nothing but a great nonsense. Probably they thought I was trying to invalidate any romance between Cloud and Tifa in favour of Aerith, even if it would be a total contradiction since the fiercest CA fans spent more than two decades trying to loosen the connection between Zack and SOLDIER-Cloud... But I wouldn't be surprised to hear these kind of theories since the upcoming Ultimania Plus is seemingly going to show the same concept...
ANYWAY, no time for digressions.
I'd like to add a comparison with one of Cloud's DMW sequences from Crisis Core
I think it's hard not to notice the similarity with Tifa's resolution and the scene in Cloud's room in Chapter 4
But let it be clear, this doesn't mean - and I've never meant to say it - that Cloud is acting through Zack's intentions. As long as the devs don't provide further info, all we know is that Cloud didn't inherit Zack's memories, let alone his feelings. If so probably he would be much more devoted to Aerith.
Zack knew Cloud liked Tifa, he would have never flirted with her. Never.
Cloud's always been socially awkward, insecure, uncapable to approach Tifa in any way. Now I don't want to go too much into SOLDIER-Cloud's convoluted personality but he acts through his own intentions - confused intentions at this point of the story, but still his own. Only the way he expresses himself mimics Zack's.
That quote from the developers says that "when he talks to Tifa his real self briefly emerges". BRIEFLY. Stating that Cloud with Tifa is always his real self goes totally against this story and the dynamics behind the creation of his alter ego. His feelings for her are sealed deep into his subconscious, Cloud himself says "I don't know how to explain" when he's asked about what Tifa means for him.
That line has to be contextualized to make sense. I think this concept just shows something that was already in the OG: the player could choose to be rude with Aerith, even during her date (probably to show his conflicted feelings), but never with Tifa, he's always been istinctively soft with her. He gets jealous, he lets her into his personal space, he touches her and lets her touch him, and when they're in dangerous situations he's istinctively protective.
And not because Tifa is better than Aerith but because real-Cloud's character arc revolves around Tifa, like it or not. There's no need to twist a simple line from the devs nor to diminish the impact of Zack on SOLDIER-Cloud to prove it.
During the dates with Aerith, Tifa or Yuffie at Gold Saucer, Cloud is involved in a theatre play.
It's a very simple and innocent tale where the player has multiple choices. Leaving aside the jokes, the story is about an Evil Dragon King who arrives in a peaceful kingdom, kidnaps the princess and takes her on the peak of a dangerous mountain. The hero goes to rescue her and can ask for the help of a knight or a wizard: if he asks the knight to intervene he's knocked down immediately, while the wizard says that love is the key to defeat the dragon. At the end of the play the dragon is defeated by the power of love.
It's only a fairy tale but...
Nibelheim was a peaceful town before the arrival of Sephiroth. In the area there are several dragons and Sephiroth burns down the whole town. Tifa, the daughter of the village chief, follows him in the reactor on Mt Nibel. Zack tries to fight Sephiroth and he's knocked down, but when Cloud arrives and sees Tifa unconscious, he finds the strenght to stab Sephiroth.
...
What a coincidence.
(Previous post here)
Since the release of the original FF7 each main character's had a dedicated key art.
They mostly remained unaltered in the Remake because their symbolism applies to both entries, while Aerith and Yuffie's changed in order to fit the themes of this new installment.
In the first picture Aerith was looking at the Highwind, but in the new one the airship's disappeared...why?
In the OG she wished she could fly on the Highwind one day. Probably this key art was meant to give to the player the illusion she could fulfill her dream and continue the adventure with her companions, in order to make more painful and unexpected her destiny.
I think her Remake key art has a totally different meaning. The central point of this picture is not the absence of the airship but the fact that she's staring at the blue sky:
The last line of the Remake makes more sense in Japanese
The sky, I hate it.
It links up better with the scene of Crisis Core where she perceived Zack's death while it started raining.
But maybe this time there's a chance...
This new picture has also a parallel with Tifa's key art: both staring at the sky, both relating it to a special person❤️
Cloud’s flashback in Kalm:
Cloud recalls the days before Nibelheim incident.
Real-Cloud (the Shinra infantryman) patrols Nibelheim square and continuously stops to stare at the water tower and Tifa’s house.
Since 1997.
Just saying.
(Previous post here)
Cloud has the so-called Mako-Eyes, due to Mako infusion treatment. This is normally a distinctive mark of SOLDIERS and during the game many characters notice them: President Shinra, Reno, Rude, Elmyra...
Aerith commenting about Cloud’s eyes was an important plot point of the OG as it was the first hint about her connection with Zack.
This dialogue takes place when they escape from the church across the rooftops of Sector 5 slums.
The devs decided to change this scene for the Remake and replace it with one that recreates step by step a romantic moment between Aerith and Zack from Crisis Core (for those who don’t know what I’m talking about, 0:13).
When Cloud and Aerith arrive in Evergreen Park, a place that's special for her, she starts talking about Zack and her cheerfulness fades away for the first time.
Zack’s name causes Cloud one of his migraine attacks. When he opens his eyes again she comments about their beauty and when he points out that’s because of the Mako she just sais “...I know”.
In Chapter 3 Johnny is arrested by Shinra Public Security and Cloud and Tifa have to intervene to make sure he doesn’t talk about Avalanche. Cloud seems to have no hesitation to kill Johnny but Tifa stops him.
This is the first time during the game where she openly states how much he’s changed and, coincidentally, she does it commenting about his eyes. Of course she’s not talking about their color. Here too he answers in a similar way, saying it's because of the Mako, to which she replies “I remember...”.
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Aerith:
likes SOLDIER eyes
because they remind her of Zack, the guy she loved.
She gets sad because she misses Zack.
In Crisis Core Mako eyes were described as “color of the sky - but not scary at all”.
Tifa:
doesn’t like SOLDIER eyes
because they are different from those of the guy she had a crush on.
She gets sad because she misses the Cloud of 7 years ago.
The camera focuses on his eyes while she says that he’s scaring her.
The devs can’t be saying that SOLDIER-Cloud is NOT real-Cloud, that Aerith likes his Zack-side and that real-Cloud doesn’t use to cut civilians in half with a massive sword...
(Find the previous post here)
Final Fantasy universes are populated by all kind of fantastic creatures and monsters, like Moogles, Chocobos, Bahamuts, etc..
Cloud has always been compared to Chocobos by fans because of his hairstyle. In the OG Tifa points out this resemblance.
In Chapter 9 of the Remake Chocobo Sam compares Tifa to a Bomb. The name of the side quest is A dynamite body so we can guess the reason of his comment.
Interestingly enough, in the OG Tifa compares Cloud to a Chocobo when the group finds the bird’s nest on the way to Mt Corel, and the “Bombs” could be fought for the first time on the bridge in Mt. Corel.
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The following picture is Tifa’s key art for Final Fantasy VII Remake. She is wearing her default weapon, the Leather Gloves. Their description is: Well-worn leather gloves that have seen their fair share of fights. It implies that she’s had them for a long time.
Do I need to add anything else?
EDIT:
Sure I do!!! In Chapter 10, when Aerith and Tifa talk about going shopping together, Aerith sais Cloud will be their pack-Chocobo!
Second post about CloTi and ZeriTh hints in FFVII Remake!
Find the previous post here.
Be sure to pick an outfit that goes with mine, okay?
Leave it to me, Tifa! 😂
In order to sneak in Don Corneo’s palace, Aerith and Tifa wear nice elegant dresses, and Cloud has to disguise himself as a lady. It’s interesting how Cloud and Tifa’s outfits can match in colors, fabrics and details:
These are the OG canon outfits. To get this combination the player has to choose the Mature dress for Tifa in Chapter 3, and complete Chocobo Sam odd jobs in Chapter 9. The odd jobs depend on the answers given at Wall Market: if the player prefers Tifa probably Cloud will get this dress. The CANON dress.
To get the satin outfits the player has to choose the Sporty dress for Tifa in Chapter 3, and complete Madam M odd jobs in Chapter 9. Same logic: if the player prefers Aerith, probably this will be Cloud’s dress.
For this last combination the player has to choose the Exotic dress for Tifa in Chapter 3, and skip the sidequests in Chapter 9.
It reminded me how Cloud and Tifa’s outfits perfectly match also in Adven Children.
The choice of Aerith’s dress depends on how many Odd Jobs in Chapter 8 were completed:
6 sidequests: red dress
3-5 sidequests: long pink dress
0-2 sidequests: short pink dress
They don’t match with Cloud or Tifa’s, but her two new dresses are pink and also the train of the OG red dress has a lighter shade...
Do you remember the promise she shared with Zack in Crisis Core?
(Yes, I edited the picture. No I didn’t alter the meaning. Link for the whole scene).
These details are AMAZING 💗
Crisis Core:
During their first encounter, Zack and Aerith spend some time together at the market, but a kid steals Zack’s wallet. Local people and shopkeepers are reluctant to help him find the kid, but in the end the Accessory seller apologizes with Zack for having misjudged him...
Clerk: Hey, Aren't you...You are! The guy who was chasing that kid around! I heard about you from the neighborhood folks. I thought you were just some dumb outsider, but it turns out you're a pretty good guy. I'm sorry we misjudged you, this is just a small token of our appreciation.
...and he gives him some items (best reward consist in: 1 Soma, 1 Hi-Potion and 1 Remedy). Then Zack buys the pink ribbon for Aerith.
Remake:
In Chapter 3 Tifa and Cloud go around the slums of Sector 7 to change water filters and collect money (Water filters - Water tower...am I overthinking? Anyway). At the end of the side quests they head back to Stargazer Heights (that water tower again!) and have a conversation with Marle. At first Marle is rather prejudiced against Cloud, but she seems to change her mind when she sees Tifa happy after spending some time with him:
Marle: Take care you two! ...Oh? You're looking pretty chipper!
Tifa: Uh...I don't feel that different.
Marle: Must be my imagination then. Anyway! Keep your wits about you, merc! A token of my appreciation. Be good to her.
At the end of the conversation she gives him a Crescent Moon Charm. This accessory is used to reduce damage when equipped by non-active characters (so from the perspective of Cloud, he can use it to protect the others).
The description of this charm is VERY interesting...
A charm imbued with the fervent desire to be by one’s side for eternity.
And...it is identical to the earring Tifa wears with her default dress at Wall Market! 🌙
Or better: the moon earring already existed in the OG as it was part of Tifa’s outfit to see Don Corneo. The devs created this new accessory and shaped it exactly like her earring, giving it a new significance since it represents a connection between Cloud and Tifa.
The same exact thing that happened in Crisis Core with Aerith’s ribbon! 🎀
Oh Midgar, Midgar, city that's always on my mind For Midgar, Midgar, I left my one true love behind Snuck outta the town before the sun could rise — when I knew you'd be sleeping Could barely read the words on my carriage ticket — non-stop to Midgar Our parting words never said, only to be washed away Swept up and lost in the stream of life I can't see the stars no more — but they still fall In the plate's reflection, that night summer sky from our youth You and me girl — watching and wishing We both burned so very bright — brighter than the sun Yet we played it too cool, never making a move How our hearts raced so fast, we could hear them beat Electricity — oh how the sparks would fly Oh Midgar, Midgar, city that's always on my mind For Midgar, Midgar, I left my one true love behind