JJ is the lesser of two evils that is all it is. Although I should note the coma was RJ request so that is not on JJ but of course JJ had plenty of issues all his own doing. However, at least JJ wasn't an apologist for Kylo. But yeah the only POC with any power seems to be Pablo Hidalgo incidentally he was also unlike KK and RJ not making every excuse under the sun for Kylo. Make of it what you will.
I don't understand why some fans think JJ Abrams will save Finn's arc when this man also made Finn be attacked during the entire movie, be a red herring and end the movie in a coma. The entire lucasfilm is guilty in this, they need more black artists to work in their movies or black characters will always be treat like this
the lesser of two evils. while JJ had many many flaws, he also gave us a great character in Finn and all those FS clues etc etc. rian doesnt even have one redeeming quality going for him. so when its rian vs. jj - of course everyone wants jj back. but ur point still stands. there needs to be more black people behind the camera.
Poor Jhoira bumped off the pack for some Aven and a Benalish Knight? No Spark, No Packet Apparently. Teferi is back and Karn looks like Thanos.
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I am happy Carrie Fisher is gone I shudder what they do to Leia. Cant wait for Mark to right a tell all book and no wonder George Lucas didn't grace the red carpet. Disney better have an airtight contract or George Lucas should sue.
Luke Skywalker couldn't kill his own father in duel threw down his lightsaber and was willing to let the Emperor kill him instead. Even though he knew his father was a monster. Heck it isn't restricted to family...Luke gave Jabba The Hut notorious criminal to which he had no Family ties a chance to surrender Han first. But I am suppose to believe Luke Skywalker would draw his Lightsaber to kill his nephew over some Dark Thoughts? You have to be shitting me.
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I mean it!!! My askbox is opened and I won’t spoil anyone else, I just really need to know what happens. PLEASEEEEE!
Great stuff basically RJ is lying bitch ass bastard. Finn basically has the same “arc” as last time just with less screen time and less plot relevance cause this time his actions are pointless. What he and Rose do on their adventure makes no difference, the only difference is this time Finn gets to beat Phasma. Poe has an irrelevant mutiny subplot that goes nowhere cause Holdo suicide rams her ship into the Supremacy proving she is good all along. Which changes nothing because it is all pointless as the Resistance is slaughtered until Rey, Finn, Poe, Leia and Rose are the only humans of note that remain. Rose ends in a coma saving Finn, how original RJ. Finn and Poe barely interact at all. But hey at least Poe meets Rey at the end. And guess what it ends with some random black kid (who you meet earlier for like a minute) showing the Force by pulling a Broom apparently. As an extra slap in the face I suppose to anyone who wanted Finn to have the Force. So yeah RJ shunts all the POC into worthless subplots that do not change or impact the plot at all. But basically goes look I am not racist this random black kid has the force who will never see again...wink wink. We get basically no Finn and Poe interaction or Finn, Poe, Rose and Rey interaction at all.
No wonder no one wants to talk about this stuff in the reviews. RJ put less then the bear minimum in this part of the plot. Not only is it a bad subplot nothing they do has any significant impact on the fucking plot. So basically all the diversity they patted them on the back for mostly consists of a fucking smokescreen cause they had to do something with the characters and couldn't fire them all. But dont kid yourself RJ doesn't give one solitary shit about them.
But hey he put the focus on a conflicted white male “bad boy”, had Rey swoon over his abs and character assassinated Luke Skywalker so greatest star wars movie since Empire.
You can say that I agree but lets face it what is shown in the movies is not someone who has the top of their class in combat. The books don’t matter, heck I am not even sure RJ watched TFA or the OT. Finn got beat by Rey, got beat by TR-8R and beat Phasma cause she was looking the wrong direction. Beyond that while you could argue he showed impressive skills with blasters in TFA...RJ decided not to have him use a blaster at all in TLJ. So I can’t blame the audience forgetting the impression that he is not great at combat cause the movies have done nothing to dissuade that notion. Plus you know the scenes where he is most competent always seem to end up on the cutting room floor remarkable coincidence that is.
This is not to say racism doesn't play a roll at all.
can ppl like you stop acting like finn was just a janitor he literally wasn’t he was top of his class and well on his way to be an officer and only worked on sanitation bc that was part of his rotational as a cadet (like every cadet did it) so ofc he would be great at combat bc he was again top of his class
This AU came back I guess...
RJ seems to have done whatever he wanted and ignored all hints for Finn and Rey. I think you covered Finn pretty well but I want expand on Rey.
1) She is inexplicably superpowered in the Force. No Skywalker Blood, No Palpatine Blood, No Kenobi Blood, No Immaculate Conception just two random parents. And she is this strong with one week max of training? Even Anakin couldn't beat Dooku with Kenobi and 10 years and he was the chosen one. I know some have defended her against Mary Sue but come on now...
2) Unkar just decides not to sell her? He was going to beat her up and steal BB-8 but wont cash in on a super strong Force Sensitive girl? Also how the frak do they know she has the Force this strong? Are midichlorians back? Did a knight of Ren drop by scan her and decide not to walk off with such a strong force user?
3) Rey has a random Force bond with Kylo, has the Skywalker lightsaber call to her, Dreams of the island Luke is on and outpulls said Skywalker lightsaber when fighting Kylo but has no connection to the Skywalker Family at all? And prior to TFA had never even met Kylo....how does that even make logical sense.
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The worse part about Finn and Rose stuff is I am willing to bet it gets played for laughs. Rose probably wont even say Sorry. Beyond that the lack of comments on Finn, Poe and Rose tell me there stuff will be boring or limited or both. And the Reylo stuff seems somewhat legit since this is clearly the Kylo and Luke show. Reylo stuff means Rey is a Rando or Kenobi at best. So all in all I doubt I enjoy this. The only positive Finn stuff is he takes out Phasma..
Luke is the weirdest one though since no one seems to agree across all spoilers seems to agree with what goes down at the end. Force Ghost, Force Projection, Clone, Dead, Alive some combination who knows. But based on Mark’s comments, I doubt it end great for him. Snoke is a nobody probably. But consider me extra salty if Rey really is a Rando and all the Force Users are White in this one just because RJ, KK and LF decided to keep the Force White and the POC in the B-Plot
Yes, I am sure it will be played for laughs and a “meet cute” - it’s really sitcom. Beyond the awfulness of what’s done to Finn’s character AGAIN which others have explained far better than I have - ffs he just got out of a coma and she zaps him to unconsciousness? It’s like knocking Han out after he was unfrozen in Jedi. Finn’s been through an unbelievable trauma, he’s off to find the one person he knows and cares about - and this new character I’m supposed to like comes and shocks him? It’s tone deaf on so many levels I can’t even believe someone decided this was a good idea (and what, the Resistance allows fellow soldiers to just attack people leaving? Really?)
And the Poe stuff with Leia - I’m sorry, what? Leia is telling someone they’re being too reckless? Has she forgotten who her brother and husband are again? Or her own self?
Why haven’t we gotten much on Canto Bright - it’s supposed to be a big piece, right?
I can’t even comment on the Rey Rando stuff, it is too crappy for words (and I was for Rey Random - but not that awful story about her parents). Why go to the trouble of casting Daisy, who looks more like she’s the child of Harrison and Carrie or Mark and SkyMom than Adam Driver does - and then not make her related. If she’s a random, then why?
The Luke stuff is just awful, every bit I’ve seen is worse than the last. The visual dictionary saying he didn’t know about Han dying, him throwing the saber, the milk with the sloth (OMG, that sounds bad), refusing to train Rey, and on and on. Then how he’s supposed to die…and that he never sees Leia again? That proves that these directors don’t give one shit about the characters that aren’t Rey and Kylo.
Because, yes, let’s mention the whole bait and switch with Finn. Because we can argue about the screams on Takodano, because that is just badly put together. We can argue about who’s awakening, although it sure as hell looks like Finn.
But you cannot explain Maz giving Finn Luke’s saber when Han is STANDING RIGHT THERE and has a stronger claim to it by marriage. UNLESS FINN IS FORCE SENSITIVE. You just can’t - unless it’s just simply “well, we need to get the saber to the end of the movie so…congrats, Finn! But it doesn’t mean anything.”
Harder then KK and RJ sucks Adam (Kylo)’s Dick?
yall have no idea how hard i’m gonna be sucking jj abrams dick if he delivers an average film that isn’t a complete shitfest so long as we don’t have to suffer through re//ylo and the butchering/sidelining of all our beloved characters