I Hated JJ’s Finn But At Least Finn Had Fucking Plot Relevance And Some Agency. RJ Doesn't Even Give

They dont care cause for some reason KK and RJ are under the delusion that Adam Driver is a star.

Finn was the most compelling fucking character in tfa, John gave us the best fucking performance and won a goddamn BAFTA for it and this is what he gets ??? rian johnson can eat my entire shit 

I am annoyed how they always crap on the PT Jedi yes they screwed up in the end but they kept it together for 1000 Generations or 20,000 years or so that is pretty good record. Luke couldn't even make it to 20. 

But yeah the idea Luke would totally copy the Old Jedi Order and make no changes is just weird. 

Why do people believe that Luke’s Jedi Order would be the exact same as the Old Jedi Order?

Poor Jhoira bumped off the pack for some Aven and a Benalish Knight? No Spark, No Packet Apparently. Teferi is back and Karn looks like Thanos. 

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I am not surprised as far as I can tell RJ went Full EU in that he might be approaching the first Clone Wars Cartoon and StarKiller from Force Unleashed power levels. Basically, the POC are filler not just because their little side plot seems to have no major influence on the plot the First Order seems to win easily.

However, in choosing to dive so deep into Force Mythology and awesome Force powers, anyone without said powers is simply left in the dust. This is basically the EU towards the end with the exception of  mostly Han with Boba Fett and Lando to a lesser extent who survived off being Legacy from the OT. Ergo because RJ decided to keep the Force White and couldn't be bothered to come up with a compelling side plot. Well its no wonder there is a few mentions of Finn, a couple more about Rose and none about Poe. Nothing they do is plot relevant and any action scenes they get are easily overshadowed but what sounds like God Level Force Users. Who wants to watch Finn vs Phasma in the B-Plot when it has no emotional resonance and doesn't even look as cool as the Force Fights?  Even with a compelling side plot and no Force in something this Force Centric it would be hard but with a boring side plot, its impossible. B-Plot is there to move the plot forward and break up the Force Beats only. The Force Plot always tend to overshadow the non Force Plot. RJ seemingly did zilch to prevent it and probably didn't even care. Slapped Rose in for some diversity points, tossed Finn the bone of beating Phasma and probably gave Poe some nice space scenes. Called it a day. 

Look, if people had come out of this movie saying Finn is amazing and mentioned the Finnrey reunion, and talked about the diversity, and made clear statements that Kylo remains the villain and about how kick ass feminist things are, I would be able to stomach Rey random. Not the way things seem now. 

The Last Jedi Reviews

Great stuff basically RJ is lying bitch ass bastard. Finn basically has the same “arc” as last time just with less screen time and less plot relevance cause this time his actions are pointless. What he and Rose do on their adventure makes no difference, the only difference is this time Finn gets to beat Phasma. Poe has an irrelevant mutiny subplot that goes nowhere cause Holdo suicide rams her ship into the Supremacy proving she is good all along. Which changes nothing because it is all pointless as the Resistance is slaughtered until Rey, Finn, Poe, Leia and Rose are the only humans of note that remain. Rose ends in a coma saving Finn, how original RJ. Finn and Poe barely interact at all. But hey at least Poe meets Rey at the end. And guess what it ends with some random black kid (who you meet earlier for like a minute) showing the Force by pulling a Broom apparently. As an extra slap in the face I suppose to anyone who wanted Finn to have the Force. So yeah RJ shunts all the POC into worthless subplots that do not change or impact the plot at all. But basically goes look I am not racist this random black kid has the force who will never see again...wink wink. We get basically no Finn and Poe interaction or Finn, Poe, Rose and Rey interaction at all.

No wonder no one wants to talk about this stuff in the reviews. RJ put less then the bear minimum in this part of the plot. Not only is it a bad subplot nothing they do has any significant impact on the fucking plot. So basically all the diversity they patted them on the back for mostly consists of a fucking smokescreen cause they had to do something with the characters and couldn't fire them all. But dont kid yourself RJ doesn't give one solitary shit about them.

But hey he put the focus on a conflicted white male “bad boy”, had Rey swoon over his abs and character assassinated Luke Skywalker so greatest star wars movie since Empire.

Well you see that be in character and this movie was all about making Luke look bad so Kylo could look good. But that begs question what was the explanation for how Luke couldn't sense Han Dying or an entire Solar System disappearing while hiding in a Force Nexus?

To be honest, the minute Luke learned that Kylo Ren killed Han Solo, he should have geared up and trained Rey and gotten to the Resistance pronto. The minute. 

THE LAST JEDI REY RANDOM

Okay did RJ even watch TFA? Lets say I buy Rey is a Random and convinced herself that her parents didn't sell her and were coming back. Why is Unkar feeding into her delusions? He offers to pay a crap ton for BB-8, she is slave why is not just taking BB-8 instead. Also she didn't get sold for massive amounts of credits cause she is strong in the Force? Again why not what makes it seem like Unkar has a heart and cares about anything besides money. 

Uncle Tom

Truly has there ever been a greater Uncle Tom then Clarence Thomas

JJ is the lesser of two evils that is all it is. Although I should note the coma was RJ request so that is not on JJ but of course JJ had plenty of issues all his own doing. However, at least JJ wasn't an apologist for Kylo. But yeah the only POC with any power seems to be Pablo Hidalgo incidentally he was also unlike KK and RJ not making every excuse under the sun for Kylo. Make of it what you will. 

I don't understand why some fans think JJ Abrams will save Finn's arc when this man also made Finn be attacked during the entire movie, be a red herring and end the movie in a coma. The entire lucasfilm is guilty in this, they need more black artists to work in their movies or black characters will always be treat like this

the lesser of two evils. while JJ had many many flaws, he also gave us a great character in Finn and all those FS clues etc etc. rian doesnt even have one redeeming quality going for him. so when its rian vs. jj - of course everyone wants jj back. but ur point still stands. there needs to be more black people behind the camera. 

Don't get me wrong I didn't like the Rey Attack either I am just saying you can squint and explain where there is nothing that mitigates this one at all in my book. Yeah Finn’s backstory in no way calls for Comic Relief in my book. If they wanted this they never should have used Child Soldier background. 

I keep thinking about how we were given the impression that Finn and Rose’s story would be a cool team up and that Rose would think he’s a Big Deal, but the storybook leaks basically give us a completely different dynamic, one where Rose drags an unwilling Finn around by the collar and scolds him for even trying to leave, and keeps him from leaving by force, and I hate that. I really hate that. It’s like the weak and questionable parts of Finn and Rey’s interaction before Harrison got injured and JJ reshot some stuff and changed their dynamic going forward because the antagonistic stuff wasn’t working. So why copypaste that bad dynamic that JJ already famously decided needed to be fixed? Actually make it worse? Bleh.