Currently Listening To “Something I Can Never Have” By Nine Inch Nails Because That’s How I Feel

Ted and Karen have affected Mike and Nancy’s view of love but not in the way most people think

Recently there has been a argument in the fandom about why Mike can’t say he loves El. With some saying he’s gay or he doesn’t love El that way or he doesn’t know how to say it.

I am a believer that Mike is gay and doesn’t love El in a romantic way, but I also believe that a argument made by Melvin fans is also true and that is Ted and Karen’s relationship affecting their children’s view of love.

Most of them argue that The Wheeler parents are why Mike cant say he loves El because they never shown love to each other. I do think they are right on the part about Ted and Karen’s relationship affecting their children, but I disagree how it has affected them.

It is true that Ted and Karen are in a loveless marriage, and that has been shown to actually affect Mike and Nancy. Nancy has been aware of this fact and she even repeats their mistake, Mike’s is more subtext but it with him dressing exactly like his parents in S3. (Karen’s yellow striped shirt and Ted’s teal shirt or whatever color it is).

This has shown that Mike and Nancy have been affected by their parents’ loveless marriage but it’s not because they can’t say it or show it, it’s because they are repeating their parents’ relationship. Thinking they are in love with someone, but in reality, they aren’t.

Nancy is aware of the fact that her parents don’t love each other. She has a scene where she talks to Johnathan about it but there’s an irony to it, because she is in a relationship where she doesn’t actually love Steve. Which is why she can’t say she loves him, because she doesn’t. The way that Ted and Karen had met and got married are kind of exactly like how Nancy is with Steve.

Nancy: My parents never loved each other.

Johnathan: They must’ve married for some reason

Nancy: My mom was young, my dad was older. But he had a cushy job, money, came from a good family, and started their nuclear family

Really shows how Ted and Karen only got together because of circumstance and not actual love. Because of expectations. Which is where Mike’s relationship with El comes into play.

Throughout season 1, Mike’s friends keep on telling him he totally is in love with El. Basically expecting him to love her, when he doesn’t. Mike may seem to not notice or really care about his parents relationship, but like Nancy, it has him unaware of doing the same thing. He doesn’t love El, at least not romantically. Which can explain why he can’t say he loves her, he thinks or thought this is what love is, but it’s not.

Stancy literally broke up because Nancy didn’t love Steve and could never say it to him. Which is literally what Mike and El are going through right now.

Mike and Nancy are repeating their parents relationships, it’s not that they can’t express love, it’s that they mistook their love for something that wasn’t and learned to fall in love with someone else. This season’s message is about going against conformity, which is literally Ted and Karen’s relationship, and to break through it. That is how Ted and Karen have affected Mike and Nancy.

Policy of truth by Depeche Mode is a Byler S4 song (that’s kinda on Mike’s side) because I said so-

SPOILERS FOR STRANGER THINGS 4

So… we not gonna talk about how time stopped in the upside down when WILL disappeared? Because I’m so confused on what that means, but this also means Will is important again isn’t it? But if ANYONE has an explanation for time stopping when Will disappears then please give me one because I’m confused why people don’t talk about this…

Anyways Byler is canon 😌

CAN SOMEONE RECOMMEND ANY EVIL/VILLAIN WILL BYERS FICS OR WILL I HAVE TO DO IT MYSELF-

I LOVE THIS WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE A FIC

Considering writing a truly elaborate reverse isekai established relationship older Cleradin comes to Hawkins to meet pre relationship Byler and help El and everyone save the world while also repairing their relationship and getting Mike and Will to smooch while they’re at it.

Lucas’ fantasy counterpart is a prince (this is why he has the horse!) and turns out Erica is a princess and he has to swear Will the Wise and Sir Mike to utmost secrecy that his sister can NEVER find out she is actual royalty in another reality.

Dustin teaches fantasy Will about electricity and they do a magical mourning ritual for Eddie that he would have loved.

Steve invites them to stay at his house but Will the Wise, who is a grown ass man in his twenties, refuses to leave his mommy Joyce so everyone moves in and uses Steve’s house as a base.

Robin has to take fantasy Will aside and explain homophobia to him because he is so incredibly outwardly gay all the time.

Sir Mike and Nancy get along swimmingly because they are both fighters and relentless and he thinks it’s fun to be older than her for once.

There are fantasy to mundane eighties makeovers that upset and arouse Hawkins Mike, fantasy Will is very attached to his terrible wizard hat, fantasy Mike thinks blazers are neat, there are arguments about pants.

El is trying to reach out to fantasy El to repeat the portal accident that got Cleradin to Hawkins in the first place while also trying to help Max and defend against Vecna.

Will is completely flustered at all times by Sir Mike and Jonathan teases him relentlessly.

Sir Mike is an idiot who asks Hopper for an ale and gets his tongue stuck inside the freezer and finally bonds with Mike over the utility of radio communication.

Mike cannot even with Will the Wise who is so curious and outspoken and creative and keeps paying attention to everyone other than him how dare he.

Will the Wise is desperately avoiding picking up Hawkins Mike and squeezing him and ruffling his hair and biting him from cuteness aggression.

Will learns about Cleradin’s romance direct from Will the Wise but Sir Mike never tells Hawkins Mike, but Mike decides it’s worth the risk to follow through on his hunch and goes for it with Will anyway and they have a pre-final-battle first date and it is extremely cute because they deserve nice things.

El gets occasional communiques from her fantasy counterpart who helps her find Max by bringing fantasy Max into the void so El can look for her signature in Hawkins. Fantasy El is a super powerful and deeply weird witch and Hawkins El isn’t sure if she is okay with growing up to be like her and fantasy El is like “of course you won’t! Just by meeting me we’ve changed everything about what you would have been. Everything is changing all the time!” And Hawkins El is like, you are confusing and remind me of my punk sister so I guess that’s okay but please don’t go making any more portals by accident. And fantasy El is like, gosh, you are sooooo serious all the time, fiiiiiinnnneeee. But she makes one little portal a while later after Cleradin gets back home to send their well wishes and ask for Joyce’s meatloaf recipe.

Me and Leon when we’re married:

older! leon x younger! reader

literally any johnny intro dialogue

As cool as villain Will Byers is, I think it’s fine as staying as some AU. Because making one of their only canonically gay character a villain, that’s actually a homophobic trope in media.

However, he does deserve to beat the shit out of someone and I will forever stand by that.

If never gonna give you up doesn’t play in S5 what is the point of the show? Like Byler can happen but if never gonna give you up just isn’t in S5 then it’s a 0/10 for me

Good point. It’s just I feel he deserves to beat the shit out of someone. Just one person

Villain Will Byers with powers. Villain Will Byers with powers. Villain Will Byers wi-